I don't care what you think about the "4-door coupe" trend

"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg) 06/24/2014 at 11:25 • Filed to: None

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This is art. Brown, diesel art.

Nibby > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 11:26

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*dragons furiously*

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 11:27

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The car that started it all is still the best of them all though.

Mmm, look at that.

The Audi is the best of the current ones though.

EL_ULY > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 11:32

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day aight....

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 06/24/2014 at 11:35

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So true. I loved the first generation CLS, but this new one is overdone and looses the sleek lines of this one. The Audi picks up where the 1st gen CLS left off.

RazoE > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 06/24/2014 at 11:35

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Nah, it's pretty ugly. I do agree that the Audi is the best one right now.

spanfucker retire bitch > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 11:35

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RS7 or get the fuck out.

PS9 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 11:37

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People whine too much about changing terminology. Language is liquid, and the people who make these things should get to decide what they will be called.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > spanfucker retire bitch 06/24/2014 at 11:38

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I like the RS7 a lot, but all that orange paint and gills and vents and spoilers make it less of a looker. It looks too boy racer.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 11:39

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The current just isn't as beautifully elegant as the original. And the 2015 facelift just plain ruins it.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 06/24/2014 at 11:43

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* Sees 2015 CLS * *sobs uncontrollably* And it has a column shifter!

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 11:47

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It has never been about disparaging the body style, at least not for me... Frankly, I think all sedans are obsolete, and cars without a large aft cargo hatch are un-necessarily limited by a tiny trunk lid and it's small portal opening. A lift back sedan is a better solution, as well as a better looking car in most cases.

I just don't call cars with more than two side doors, a coupe. Just as I wouldn't call a car with a folding top as a coupe, either.

Audi A7 in any form, is a great car... as well as the A5 SportBack that the US doesn't get.

A5 Sportback really should be re-badged to replace the A4 wholly, especially now that A3 has become a sedan (was a 3-door/5-door pair) and is invading A4's segment. A4 as a 5-door sportback between A3 and A6 traditional sedans makes sense... and Quattro Sport should be the 3-door fastback hatchback *coupe* version of that 5-door A4,

A4 5-door 4-seat sport sedan, and Quattro Sport 3-door 2+2, with a 275-325hp Turbo 4, longitudinal 6-speed or DSG, real Quattro, and a torque-baising limited slip differential... and a handsome but elemental sport interior with amenities, but not luxo-loaded... similar to the upcoming TT's elemental interior.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 11:48

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There's a reason why I didn't post a picture.. *gags*

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. 06/24/2014 at 11:49

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You just solved Audi. Well done, sir.

spanfucker retire bitch > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 11:50

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What orange paint, gills, vents and spoilers? To what are you referring to? They're all the color of whatever you choose. There's no mandatory orange.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > spanfucker retire bitch 06/24/2014 at 11:53

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But the gills, vents, and spoilers are non-optional.

spanfucker retire bitch > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 12:08

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You confused me with the orange. Either way, I think it looks a helluva lot better. Especially the front. You just had me confused with the orange remark.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > spanfucker retire bitch 06/24/2014 at 12:24

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Yeah, I just meant the bright red/orange that Audi shows it in on the website. It's a nice color, but not as subdued as I prefer for the A7.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 06/24/2014 at 12:45

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I have been proposing this since A3 development started to show it would become a sedan that would obviously step on A4's toes, and the Quattro Sport concept came out.

I would so love to have a Quattro Sport (like the white concept car, rather than the later red/yellow one... the roof line was RIGHT on the white concept), even in a steel body with some aluminum panels, a well tuned E888 turbocharged I4, a standard 6-speed manual, real 3-diff AWD, with a torque-vectoring rear diff, and a nice, but not over-loaded interior, and a fastback rear hatch with fold-flat rear jump seats, at A4 price points. With a supercharged 3.0T V6 and DSG, it would be a new Quattro S2 coupe. With a turbocharged I5, DSG, carbon-fiber bodywork with flared fenders, and all the RS-trimmings... you would have Quattro RS2... basically the configuration that the concept car showed.

The only other thing that I didn't mention, is that the A5 should basically continue as-is, just as big as A4, but $5K more expensive option-for-option, but it should be marketed as a mid-range triplet with A6 and A7, at a higher price point, and luxury-oriented traditional 2-door coupe with a trunk lid, even if it is built on the platform shared with the suggested theoretical A4 5-door, and Quattro Sport 3-door fastback.

M-B does that with the E-type Coupe... it is a C-class chassis, with an E-class style body, drivetrain choices, amenities, and pricing... but the chassis allows it to be a bit more lithe than the E-class sedan and CLS sleek-sedan. Audi can pull it off, too, especially aligning the A5's styling with the A7's front end, and the A6's back end.