Would the Toyota Avalon/Lexus ES sell better...

Kinja'd!!! "GhostZ" (GhostZ)
06/10/2014 at 17:29 • Filed to: None

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...if it looked like a Model S? Same interior, engine, specs, weight, etc., but it just happened to look like a Tesla Model S.

In other words, does the Model S's styling work regardless of it's drivetrain, and does it scale up to a car as large-selling as the Avalon? Does putting that unique styling on a non-electric car that is going to be seen everywhere (making it less "special") and be cheaper make the otherwise boring car more desirable or less?


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Kinja'd!!! dogisbadob > GhostZ
06/10/2014 at 17:32

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Too bad there's no 4-cylinder ES available over here. In China, you can get the Camry's 2.5L I4 with an ES250.


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > GhostZ
06/10/2014 at 17:33

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im not sure the Model S is smaller than an Avalon, these things are quite large. or did you mean sales volume and not size?


Kinja'd!!! D > GhostZ
06/10/2014 at 17:35

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More like scale down


Kinja'd!!! EL_ULY > GhostZ
06/10/2014 at 17:35

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ES sells just fine buddy. So does the Tesla


Kinja'd!!! jariten1781 > GhostZ
06/10/2014 at 17:43

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Maybe for a year or two when it was the hot new styling...after that it'd just blend in and go back to the same ol' sales numbers.


Kinja'd!!! Eyaare > GhostZ
06/10/2014 at 21:18

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I would actually loose interest in the Toyota Avalon.


Kinja'd!!! GhostZ > EL_ULY
06/10/2014 at 21:32

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That's not the question though, it's would the ES sell better (in a very competitive sphere) if it looked closer to how the Tesla is designed?


Kinja'd!!! GhostZ > D
06/10/2014 at 21:33

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Down in price, but I meant up in terms of market share. I think a big reason the Model S looks good is because it's still a small-scale production car and isn't very ubiquitous.


Kinja'd!!! GhostZ > HammerheadFistpunch
06/10/2014 at 21:33

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Take the Model S's body and put it on the ES/Avalon, assuming everything else is kept hte same (ignore the size difference for now). Would the ES/Avalon sell more models than it does with its current/most recent gen styling? Or does the Model S have styling that only works on a smaller-scale electric production car, instead of a large-scale generalized people hauler?


Kinja'd!!! GhostZ > dogisbadob
06/10/2014 at 21:36

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It wouldn't surprise me if they start offering it, especially since 4-cylinder luxury cars are actually catching on in the US with the CLA 45 AMG and most of Cadillac's models.


Kinja'd!!! EL_ULY > GhostZ
06/10/2014 at 21:57

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Oh ok, it is just that this theory can be applied to most cars really.


Kinja'd!!! GhostZ > EL_ULY
06/11/2014 at 07:33

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Yeah, I just picked the car that still somewhat competed with the Tesla, but was least like it in every way.