Also, rally Pacer

"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile) 03/25/2014 at 17:17 • Filed to: None

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Si vis Pacerm, para offroad 'em.

AMC/Renauledge > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 17:33

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I'd like to think that the stereo in this Pacer is playing "Don't Stop Me Now."

SWITAWI > AMC/Renauledge 03/25/2014 at 17:35

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Perfect soundtrack!

dinobot666 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 17:36

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I think these cars are adorably stupidly awesome.

For Sweden > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 17:37

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Conterpoint: Rally Chevette

AMC/Renauledge > For Sweden 03/25/2014 at 17:40

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I'm sorry, I just woke up from being put to sleep by the Chevette's totally conventional lines and overall decency at being a small car.

Blondude > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 18:03

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Bro, do you even unusual rally cars ?

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Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > For Sweden 03/25/2014 at 18:03

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I'll see your rally Chevette and raise you a big block.

Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 18:04

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Holy lack of suspension travel, batman

Blondude > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 18:06

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Also, Ford Escort shooting brake rally car.

historian1946 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 18:12

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Nate with shorter name > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 18:12

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Proof that any car becomes awesome when racecar, because racecar.

filmlandgrab@gmail.com > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 18:43

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So, was he off the pace? Did they encounter any gremlins? Competition must have been a hornets nest. I'll ramble off now.

Chuckanut > For Sweden 03/25/2014 at 18:47

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A Vauxhall Chevette HS is a very different bird than our piece of crap.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > filmlandgrab@gmail.com 03/25/2014 at 18:54

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Sharp as a javelin, you are.

BrianK > For Sweden 03/25/2014 at 18:55

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Looks like a Starion and a Chevette had a baby

imprezanoturbo > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 19:28

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That looks badass. Did I really just say that about a pacer?

Maxaxle > Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius 03/25/2014 at 19:39

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Reminds me of EVERY SINGLE SUV CONCEPT from this year and last year. Also, the latest "offroad but not actually offroad" "desert racer" Beetle concept.

Maxaxle > filmlandgrab@gmail.com 03/25/2014 at 19:39

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I don't know whether to punch you or recommend your post, so gimmie your address and I'll do both.

avens > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/25/2014 at 20:26

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Is there any car that has not been hooned or rally'd

thejustache > For Sweden 03/25/2014 at 23:59

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Yesss. I've been doing a lot of thinking about building a rally chevette lately... cheap as dirt, rear wheel drive, hatchback. Very nice...

Blakkar > Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius 03/26/2014 at 01:00

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We don't know if the car was caught coming right off a rise, odd camera angle, or if the body was specifically opened to allow the wheel s to rise on in, or something else. AMC, and the people who raced them, was known for doing so oddball stuff that actually worked. The suspension was likely one such.

Those are some huge wheels of a later 70s early 1980s rally car.

Sambo > For Sweden 03/26/2014 at 01:02

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Cha

Blakkar > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/26/2014 at 01:05

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To be honest, the more I see of the AMC Pacer, the more I like it, even if in the details, like the asymmetric doors, it was weird. Being a Compact FR that can handle substantial power and speed, makes up for so much though. Being n ad hoc dune buggy makes up for more.

This car deserves so much more respect. Sadly, it was a really good thing that happened at a very bad time, like a lot of AMC's line up at and round that time, like the Spirit/Eagle and Gremlin.

Blakkar > AMC/Renauledge 03/26/2014 at 01:11

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It was the 1980s. What exactly did you think you were going to find? EVERYTHING from just about everybody was very linear and conservatively styled, mostly because for some reason after decades of really curvy stuff, suddenly no one knew how to do curves in metal.

BTW you do know that l versions of the Chevette were FR and were very goo d for racing, though favored more in South America. The US version did get v6 and v8 engine swaps. They were evolutions of the H-body Vega and Monza. So yeah bad-ass mobiles if you were willing to put some effort into it.

Blakkar > For Sweden 03/26/2014 at 01:18

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Please stop. It hurts. The lost opportunities!!!

Detroit passed up on making Compact FRs through the 80s because? Talk about cars they couldn't make enough of today.

AMC/Renauledge > Blakkar 03/26/2014 at 02:46

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It was the 1970s, actually, when both cars lived most of their lives. And you made my point for me.

The Pacer was different. It was comfortable and had large car room inside. And you didn't need to do aftermarket engine swaps with the Pacer to get 6cyl and V8 engines. They came standard from the factory with an I6 the whole time and a V8 was optional for 1978 and '79.

They threw together workaday Chevettes by the million. So that's why I'm more interested in the Pacer.

Chaos-cascade > For Sweden 03/26/2014 at 03:35

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Wow. I never would have guessed a Chevette could look almost decent.

toyotasupraman > avens 03/26/2014 at 03:43

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That sounds like a good Question Of The Day:

Top 10 Cars Never Used In Motorsport

Ben Crowe > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/26/2014 at 04:01

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Also, rally E30 M3

Renaud Tignol > Blondude 03/26/2014 at 05:03

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That's insane :-)

TheRallyStache > For Sweden 03/26/2014 at 09:56

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That looks damn good.

DarthTurducken > filmlandgrab@gmail.com 03/26/2014 at 11:02

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Had some Pintos under the hood for sure

Bill Gallagher > Blakkar 03/26/2014 at 11:03

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My family had a pacer and it was awful. Heavy, poor handling, big heavy doors, clunky American crap.

Cornbreadthethird > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/26/2014 at 11:04

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That's the spirit! Must have an eagle eye to notice those puns.

Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius > Blakkar 03/26/2014 at 11:16

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I have a sneaking suspicion that the tire sidewall may be playing an important part of the suspension in this case.

filmlandgrab@gmail.com > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/26/2014 at 12:50

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Damn, I missed that one. You're like a matador of puns. A joke ambassador.

Ok, I'm done...

Lt. Dan > filmlandgrab@gmail.com 03/26/2014 at 14:53

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That's it, just keep rambling on.....

Blakkar > AMC/Renauledge 03/26/2014 at 17:29

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The Chevette was early 1980s, especially in South America. The AMC Pacer was mid to late 1970s, but could still be found kicking around happily into the mid 1980s.

AMC/Renauledge > Blakkar 03/26/2014 at 17:46

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Nope. The Vauxhall Chevette was designed in the early '70s and the 3-door hatch debuted in May 1975 . Two months after the Pacer. The Chevy version came out in America just 3 months later.

Both cars were designed and debuted in the early/mid '70s. That was the point of your "It was the 1980s...EVERYTHING from just about everybody was very linear and conservatively styled" line.

The two designs debuted on the market 2 months apart from each other. The Pacer was round and funky. The Chevette was a hatch version of an existing, plain-jane sedan.

Blakkar > Bill Gallagher 03/26/2014 at 17:55

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And how old were you when your family had said car. Did they get it new or recently used. Did you only good by what others told you or did you experience the car yourself.

The Pacer was not heavy but its suspension was soft and the tire not great. Not atypical for the time. Handling was not great, as a result. If the car was old, it probably needed new shocks and/or struts. Those very much matters, when the car gets on in years and/or miles.

The doors were strange. Asymmetrical, yes. Heavy? Only because the doors were built to be part of the car's safety structure. Remember NO ONE made light doors back then because they somehow knew how to make them safe. They were cheap doors. Ever open a car door in the in a luxury car made in the 1980s? They are heavy. If the hinges need grease, you didn't bitch about it. Bitching about it wasn't going to make it any better. Back then, heavy car doors were safe car doors.

And I don't need to tell you that most American cars, particularly from the 1980s did not age well. Don't ask me how Chrysler manged it. But Ford and GM did much better. AMC did fairly well. But the cars when new were not crap. They simply did not age well.

It's too easy to harsh on a car by just dropping the line "it was crap" hoping that those that read after you are ignorant of the car and the times it was made in and for. It was not a sports car, even though obviously it could be amped up for it. You're comment only shows you do not understand that. Or are one of those knobs that just has to cry about American being undeniably good now by feigning the retort "That were crap in the past" when you were NOT there to experience them yourself.

Try passing it off on someone who has been there and doesn't have a chip on their shoulder about it. I have never been let down by an American car, in my life. Thus my opinion of them has been "Good when new and well maintained. Easy to fix. Hard to destroy quickly."

"Treat the vehicle like you want to keep it and it will last you until you don't."

As a result, experience tells me that it is very seldom the manufacturer's fault the car broke down and/or fell apart. It was the owner treating the car like crap and then blaming the car for their own bad ownership, who is at fault..

Oh, BTW why did your family get a Pacer, unless they liked it? There were plenty of alternatives, so saying "its all they could get" does NOT fly.

Blakkar > Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius 03/26/2014 at 18:16

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That is usually the case in all-road and off road vehicles.

And I have to recant, the huge wheel part. White walls make wheel look bigger. It's probably riding on 15-inch rims.

Blakkar > AMC/Renauledge 03/26/2014 at 18:22

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Okay, My bad.

Bill Gallagher > Blakkar 03/26/2014 at 21:09

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It was a family car that we got right after a Renault 6, I drove both of those but learned and licensed in an MGB. The pacer was the nastiest, clunkiest, slowest feeling of those. It was funny and my friends made jokes about it but all were grateful for any ride in high school. The alternator died one rainy night on my way to a prom after dinner at a very fancy restaurant. I got a ride and left it. The car is gone but that restaurant is still pleasing people from around the world. I wish I had the MGB today. It was fun and more reliable than it was supposed to be. I felt like a kid on top of the world in that car. Then I had some great motorcycles and a 69 dodge van.