So, with the next RS4

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 02/21/2014 at 16:12 • Filed to: None

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... !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and the M3/M4 already having one.

Can we say that the Lexus RC F and Mercedes C63 AMG, are the last refined, muscle cars, ? You know, ones that rock a V8.

Brian Silvestro > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/21/2014 at 16:13

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Yes. Yes we can.

EL_ULY > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/21/2014 at 16:14

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yup. Long live RWD V8's !!!!

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and RWD n/a I-6's :]

puddler > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/21/2014 at 16:17

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when you refine something you take the useless bits out...so theres a better word to be used there...

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/21/2014 at 16:21

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I'd edit the post to say 'the M3/M4 already having an I6 ', lest people think you mean it has a V6. People tend to get very testy about that sort of thing.

I wonder. Is the new Mustang now a refined muscle car?

They're a hell of a lot cheaper in the US than any of the others, but elsewhere it's not so clear-cut. It looks to have the engineering to match.

Party-vi > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/21/2014 at 16:33

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Not muscle. Blue collar workers with a SO and kids can't afford a new $60k car. Muscle would be the Chevrolet SS, but even that's too expensive.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 02/21/2014 at 16:40

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People know what engine is in that BMW, this Oppo, Jalopnik's Oppo, not Autoblog or the Worldcarfans or something.

The Mustang.

Hard to tell, it wants to defy it's roots, but some parts of it, still scream blue collar. Interior is evolutionary.

And the back is still rough around the edges.

Just look at it, sexy as gravy sauce.

I had high hopes when Moray Callum took Ford's design department from J Mays, but after seeing this ass, and a MT interview featuring him, I realized he is not as bold, and rebellious, as I hoped.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Party-vi 02/21/2014 at 16:43

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That's why I said refined muscle car.

Party-vi > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/21/2014 at 16:47

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Expensive Muscle would be more descriptive. The Camaro and Mustang are the new refined muscle, since they have all the modern conveniences of newer cars and can be had with a V8 for around the average $33k mark.

Victorious Secret > Party-vi 02/21/2014 at 16:54

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I never understood the mentality of calling the C63 a muscle car.

Sure, if the only requirement is having boatloads of power...

Party-vi > Victorious Secret 02/21/2014 at 16:57

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I mean, it fits every part of the definition except the affordability part. It's a family car that has a big damn engine shoved into it.

Manuél Ferrari > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 02/21/2014 at 17:08

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I'm glad the C63's replacement is going to have a twin turbo 4.0L V8. It won't be a muscle car ish engine like the current V8. But small turbo V8 is still better than not V8 (at least to me)

JDIGGS > Manuél Ferrari 02/23/2014 at 06:45

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Basically Mercedes is building new motors with less displacement to save parts costs, enjoy!