How to fit 11 Wheels/Tires in a S13 Hatchback

"Mrfist9" (Mrfist9) 02/09/2014 at 02:47 • Filed to: None

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Picked up 4 wheels and 11 tires for 40$ Had to go somewhere.

Joyrider > Mrfist9 02/08/2014 at 16:13

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We need an inside pic stat!

Mrfist9 > Joyrider 02/08/2014 at 16:43

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Too late. This was a day or 2 ago

YSI-what can brown do for you > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 02:50

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Need new wheels!! May I recommend these, they even come in 4-bolt patterns!

Mrfist9 > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/09/2014 at 02:54

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Oh trust me I'd love to drop the $$ on wheels right now just can't. Gotta ticket coming up. I have 5 Steelies, 1 Altima wheel, and 11 SE wheels (1 on the car) and stacks of 15" tires so I'm keeping them around for a little while longer. I want something with a decent sized lip anyway. BBS Reps, or Work Reps.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 02:57

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I got yeah. And that is a shit ton of wheels, but then again I guess it comes with the territory. Are you gonna be using the good wheels for street driving(if you do any)? Cause I would love to see a Work wheel on something other than a show car.

Mrfist9 > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/09/2014 at 03:05

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Well by Work Rep I mean Work Replica, so not actually a work I can't afford 600$ per wheel lmao. What I want to do is go 5 lug and get a set of 17' wheels I like for Street wheels, Then for the drift spares (back wheels) I want some cheap 16's/17's Whether it be steelies or random oem Nissan wheels, or Some Mitsubishi Starion / Chrysler Conquest Wheels. Typically you keep your nice good grip tires and wheels on the front.

Edit: Also 03 Cobra Mustang wheels. Mmmmm

YSI-what can brown do for you > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 03:19

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To be honest, Work are over priced as it is. They are heavy and aren't nearly as strong as its competition. I would go and get some Rota Torques and call it a day, lighter AND cheaper. Not to mention I see a ton more people racing on Rotas than Work. I was thinking about getting some Rota Titans, but I haven't decided yet. Might just get some Gram Lights, they are only twice the price. . . only :'(

Mrfist9 > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/09/2014 at 03:23

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If I dropped the $$$ for real wheels, I'd probably get fifteen52's Their 2 pieces start at $600 and their 3 pieces stat at 1000 a wheel. Rota's scare me.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 03:27

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Jesus. That is a shitton of money, After 2 wheels they are at the price of some of Gram Lights offerings.

And Rotas aren't too bad for a DD car. . . probably, I have never had a set. I mean at least they aren't XXRs, they have wheels that cost 450 bucks for a set, which is nearly 300 dollars less Rotas. People drive them for miles without problems.

Mrfist9 > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/09/2014 at 03:33

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I'd own XXR's. Like I said Rota's scare me, especially ones like torques, way to thin of spokes for cheap wheels, the fact rota cannot accept the fact they're replica wheels, and the fact they had a PSA warning buyers to look out for fake Rotas scares me.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 03:39

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Well, I have always had it the other way around. XXRs scare me, but I wouldn't mind owning some Rotas. I don't really mind if they are replicas or not as long as they are strong, which I honestly don't know if they are. I just think XXRs are just too cheap to be strong, you know what I mean? Like 18x9.5s are like 700 bucks!

Mrfist9 > YSI-what can brown do for you 02/09/2014 at 03:44

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Thats why I like the idea of those Starion wheels, 16", 4 different possible sizes

16x7 +16

16x8 -12

16x8 +16

16x9 0 offset

OEM wheels with 0 offset in the most common wheel size. Count me in.

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 04:08

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Track day, bro.

Mrfist9 > Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS 02/09/2014 at 04:30

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Hoosiers!

tetsu_no_usagi > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 07:44

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You need to build an autocross trailer:

Most are built off the cheapest trailer you can find at Harbor Freight, and you know if a Miata can handle the above, your Sil can handle all those wheels and tires.

But otherwise, I applaud your ingenuity. Hope the cargo hauling went well.

Flavien Vidal > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 09:29

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You're not alone with problems like these don't worry... Will most likely have to do it on mine too

Dropfox2 > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 10:32

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Good way to dent your roof but my question is where the hell you buy all that for $40!!!???!!!

thebigbossyboss > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 10:40

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I had to put 10 wheels and tires in my cavalier...stacked them inside to the roof lol.

LodestarRunner > tetsu_no_usagi 02/09/2014 at 10:42

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I wanted to do this but sold my Miata before I could. The Hard Dog hitch is lonely sitting in my garage.

Jeff-God-of-Biscuits > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 10:44

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Great tip for doing this stuff. Back in my motorcycling days, I started using static cling window tint as a buffer for my luggage. You can cut it to shape, and it will keep you from getting all scratched up. Also nice because you don't get the buffeting like you did with the blanket.

Beldrueger > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 10:45

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I've tried used tires a couple of times, and I'm guessing that for $40, unless you are building barriers at a go-kart track, the best place to put 11 tires and 4 wheels at that price is probably the closest dumpster. Those tires on the roof don't appear to have much tread left.

Bubs > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 10:48

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I was hoping to be able to share an old photo of eight wheels and tires in the back seat of my B13 SE-R, but no such luck in finding it now. Bummed!

seriouslywhyiskinjastillterrible > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 11:01

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Q: How to fit 11 Wheels/Tires in a S13 Hatchback?

A: on the spot ute conversion

KnifeKnut > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 11:10

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Picked up 4 wheels and 11 tires for 40$ Had to go somewhere.

You can't just say that and not tell us how!

LodestarRunner > seriouslywhyiskinjastillterrible 02/09/2014 at 11:15

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I loved Rapper Dan's "El Koukimino".

Mrfist9 > Beldrueger 02/09/2014 at 11:18

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No way man. I've bought 2 new tires since I've owned the car. Two of those on the roof are 17s with >60% tread and there was 2 more in the car. Other then that wasn't the best mill of tires. But I really only wanted the deal cause of 2 wheels I got 2 more too.

Mrfist9 > Flavien Vidal 02/09/2014 at 11:19

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The roof can hold all that? I was scared putting 3 tires with no wheels up there on my car.

Mrfist9 > KnifeKnut 02/09/2014 at 11:21

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Used used used. Craigslist. Facebook pages forums. Only bought 2 new tires in my life.

Flavien Vidal > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 11:29

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With roof bars yes. Mine too I think and I have a targa top. Without them, no freaking wayway :)

Dream Theater of the Absurd > tetsu_no_usagi 02/09/2014 at 11:38

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I had a tire trailer built from a 40" x 48" HF frame that I used for about six years. And for the last three I've had a 4' x 8' teardrop built on an HF frame. Both were/are towed behind my '91 Miata.

It could be lighter (that frame by itself is already 250 pounds) and I wish I had made the body shorter, but other than that it works pretty well. If there's no wind, it's stable up to around 75 mph, although I usually tow at around 60-65.

EMPoweredBMW > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 11:40

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Dat E30

Mrfist9 > EMPoweredBMW 02/09/2014 at 12:04

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Yea that's my buddies. It's a ridiculously clean 318.

NipperDawg > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 12:18

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I remember when I used to be able to do that, thats before I discovered AWD.

Drifter of Nikes > tetsu_no_usagi 02/09/2014 at 12:43

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I plan on purchasing the smallest, lightest, cheapest tuner car that can trail a kart. Seeing this Miata handle a 4-wheeler makes my decision an easy one.

DasWolf13 > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 12:58

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I think you would have to be made of tires to carry anymore.
Good job!

curbwatching > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 13:48

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Can anyone tell me what goes through the mind of an American who doesn't know where the dollar sign goes?

It's mind-boggling to me that someone can reach adulthood without being exposed to dollar signs and numbers in daily life, but I guess it happens.

I'm not even criticizing, I'm just genuinely befuddled.

Mrfist9 > curbwatching 02/09/2014 at 13:59

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It's the way it is spoken. 40 Dollars. 40$. 40 Pounds? 40 I read from left to right, not sure what you people do on the other end of the planet.

highplainsdrifter > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 14:27

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Would recommend converting to 5 bolt if your gonna be drifting or going to track days.

Mrfist9 > highplainsdrifter 02/09/2014 at 14:34

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Definitely. It's like 300-400$ for the whole conversion. They sell Hubs just for the task you just need wheels and brake rotors. There's 1 4x114.3 for every 10000 5x114.3 wheel. 5x114.3 is the Mustang standard size, so mustangs being a popular tuner car throws out a lot of options for wheels, that's the main reason you would convert.

Redd, the RX-7 that could > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 14:35

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$40* just lettin you know for future reference, congrats on the steal!

wbizarre - OEM fetishist > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 14:37

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That reminds me, they said the FR-S was designed to fit 4 wheels and tires in the back hatch for track days. Can anyone confirm if it can?

curbwatching > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 14:49

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Yes, that's how it's spoken. But not how it's written. Surely you've seen it written correctly at some point in your life. There's not a shop in the USA or the UK that hasn't written prices on their products since long before either of us were born.

Is it some kind of protest against convention on your part?

Mrfist9 > curbwatching 02/09/2014 at 15:03

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Well it's been a habit, but the fact it's become a sort of grammar nazi thing of the internet, I've kept it going.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 15:32

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That is literally the perfect size for this car, I don't see why you wouldn't do this.

Reborn Pyrrhic > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 15:39

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More like "on a S13" than "in a S13".

BLOZUP > Dream Theater of the Absurd 02/09/2014 at 15:52

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I'm planning on getting the HF frame (I admit, gonna splurge on the 12" tire one for $50 more bucks), and make an autocross trailer for my 280Z. So much easier than trying to jam it all in the car. Plus, my park bench bumpers are almost ready for a ball as is.

Bmxjcp > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 16:08

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Was hoping to find a picture of the time I transported 8 wheels with tires in the Miata, they were retched strapped to the rollbar and stacked in the front seat.

Here's a picture of three bikes in the car instead. (One was in the passenger seat

Maxaxle > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 17:10

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I seriously hope that's not stanced.

Maxaxle > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 17:11

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Is the trunk open, or did the latch get stuck?

Joyrider > curbwatching 02/09/2014 at 18:19

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Who cares it could be bitcoins or sitoshi's, still doesn't matter.

Dream Theater of the Absurd > BLOZUP 02/09/2014 at 20:20

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When I got my tire trailer I didn't pop for the 12" wheels. But I did repack the wheel bearings shortly after I assembled it, and I used some good hi-temp bearing grease. With that and regular maintenance I never had a problem with it; in fact, it still had its original wheel bearings when I sold it.

But I did go for 12" wheels when I built my teardrop, and once again, I cleaned out the factory Crisco and repacked the bearings with good grease. So far, no trouble, although I have worn out the original tires after three years.

curbwatching > Mrfist9 02/09/2014 at 20:56

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So it's a protest, got it.

I still don't get how anyone could make that mistake in the first place, but hey, do what feels good.

WilRams > Dream Theater of the Absurd 02/09/2014 at 21:50

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Any more info on the build? I would love to know more about that teardrop. I could use a little trailer like that for many things!

Lets Just Drive > curbwatching 02/10/2014 at 00:57

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How very FP of you.

Sudman > Mrfist9 02/10/2014 at 01:03

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Wait, how could I do this on my Miata?

kschang > Mrfist9 02/10/2014 at 01:06

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Nice going. Though you can always do what this Chinese guy did to the truck (though he claims "I just bought it"... )

Yep, you're looking at a 3 meter wide 17.5 meter long super truck... That's ILLEGAL in China. Normal heavy trucks has a max of 2.4 M width and 11.9 M long, and have 3 axles. This illegal truck had the bed lengthened to 4 axles, then modified to two axles, but the length is still longer than a railcar.

What's even funnier, the driver didn't even have truck license to drive ANY truck at all... and the annual inspection logbooks had been falsified.

The cops in China can't even fit it in the impound yard without a struggle. Took them half an hour and backing into the place to get it parked.

(original source: http://news.xinhuanet.com/yzyd/legal/201… )

Mrfist9 > Maxaxle 02/10/2014 at 01:16

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No I had popped it open. I gave the 17s to my buddy in the e30 and he was with me this was when we were moving those 4 tires.

Mrfist9 > Maxaxle 02/10/2014 at 01:25

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No I had popped it open. I gave the 17s to my buddy in the e30 and he was with me this was when we were moving those 4 tires.

TheOnelectronic > EMPoweredBMW 02/10/2014 at 01:36

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I'm glad someone else noticed that. It's a really nice execution of that style.

Ryno > Maxaxle 02/10/2014 at 02:33

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This guy is my best friend. His car is lowered. but not that much haha the tires definitely lowered it some more

madman547 > Jeff-God-of-Biscuits 02/10/2014 at 04:43

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Damn, never thought of that. I am going to steal it as my own;-)

eovnu87435ds > wbizarre - OEM fetishist 02/10/2014 at 08:56

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I test drove a BRZ the other weekend. While this wasn't part of my test drive, it does look like you certainly can. If it couldn't, it would be missing by the smallest of a percentage.

Dream Theater of the Absurd > WilRams 02/10/2014 at 09:16

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I found the side profile in an online gallery and used build instructions I found on the Teardrops and Tiny Travel Trailers forum. The sides and floor are 1/2" plywood and the roof is 1/8" Italian poplar. The windows, latches and roof vent all came from various sources online. It weighs in around 800 lb with my camping gear in it, with about 150lb on the tongue.

I have it wired for 110v power, plus it also has a 100Ah deep-cycle battery which powers the interior and galley lighting (the battery wasn't installed yet when I took the picture above).

Link to teardrop plans here

basher937 > Mrfist9 02/10/2014 at 09:18

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I once got 8 tires all inside a MINI.

WilRams > Dream Theater of the Absurd 02/10/2014 at 09:33

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Perfect thank you!

chromecarz00 > Mrfist9 02/10/2014 at 12:02

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what facebook pages?

highplainsdrifter > Mrfist9 02/10/2014 at 16:09

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Do you know if there are any 300 hubs still around? They were a cheaper option back in the day and have a common bolt pattern too. I haven't been keeping up with s-chassis stuff as much as I used to.

Mrfist9 > highplainsdrifter 02/10/2014 at 19:11

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There's no point, It ends up overall being cheaper doing conversion hubs, and 300's are also 5x114.3

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > Mrfist9 02/11/2014 at 09:10

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I was rather hoping this would be an instructional article. Oh well.

Ralstig > Mrfist9 02/11/2014 at 09:50

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I've done similar with my Miata. :P

Ralstig > Ralstig 02/11/2014 at 10:02

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And everything fits perfectly in my 2.

mrhandle > curbwatching 02/11/2014 at 10:25

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I (mistakenly) do it all the time, just because as I'm thinking in my head as I'm typing "oh and these were 40 dollars" it comes out of my fingers as 40$. This only happens when I'm quickly taking down notes or doing something where it doesn't matter though. When I'm putting thought into what I'm doing it doesn't happen.

But really, it's a small mistake, this is oppo. It still reads as 40 dollars, I don't think its worth the fuss. (If this was printed on a menu or something formal thats a completely different story)