I'm not all that sure of this

"Hooker" (Hooker) 11/26/2014 at 13:52 • Filed to: None

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The new Ford Explorer. I feel like the previous front end jived more with the rest of the vehicle than this, arguably, conservative makeover. I'm glad they're staying on top of things and giving meaningful refreshes but I think this one might just be a step backward. What say you, Oppo?

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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 13:55

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It makes it looks more like a Kia Soul. It's a step toward more conservative styling dressed up to appear as if it's not, so it's just weird to look at.

bob and john > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 13:56

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I prefered the looks of the older one much more tbh.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 13:57

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I don't like the bulbous front end of the current one. My mom has a '15 and it's a pain in th e ass to see what's in front of you when you're parking; fortunately I always guesstimate and leave at least 2 feet open ahead of me or I just get out of the car multiple times to correct my parking for perfection. The new front end might be a throwback of sorts, but it isn't bad at all.

I'd like to see what a refreshed Escape would look like ;)

Takuro Spirit > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:00

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"Shit, they're making fun of the design we clearly ripped off of Land Rovers.... what do we do for the restyle????"

"Steal a design or two from Hyundai."

promoted by the color red > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:02

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I thought it was a Kia from the thumbnail.

MIATAAAA > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:07

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Did they get rid of projector lamps???

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:08

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I like it. I hate the tri-bar grill on the old one. And the headlights no longer are shaped like a penis drawn by a 12 year old. If they are ripping off anybody's design, it is LR.

crown victor victoria > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:13

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I won't say I love the new look, but the current design just kind of made it look like a fat Edge.

Steve in Manhattan > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:17

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It's better looking than the Grand Cherokee. Way better. That is all.

Hooker > Steve in Manhattan 11/26/2014 at 14:24

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I'll give that to you.

Hooker > crown victor victoria 11/26/2014 at 14:25

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True. I like the differentiation, however, it just looks like it belongs on a different vehicle.

Hooker > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/26/2014 at 14:26

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Yeah, I see a lot of LR in this. I don't hate that. Just doesn't seem as cohesive as it was.

Hooker > MIATAAAA 11/26/2014 at 14:26

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I just noticed that. I think they did. That's lame.

Hooker > promoted by the color red 11/26/2014 at 14:26

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Now I can't unsee it.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:27

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Plus, the 2.3 Turbo replaces the 2.0.

Hooker > Takuro Spirit 11/26/2014 at 14:27

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I wish I could recommend this a thousand times.

Hooker > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/26/2014 at 14:28

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Me too. I'm actually really excited about what they have in store for the Escape.

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > crown victor victoria 11/26/2014 at 14:28

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" What was that, mate? "

Hooker > bob and john 11/26/2014 at 14:28

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Me too. But maybe this is one of those designs that we just need to see it in person first?

Hooker > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 11/26/2014 at 14:29

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Agreed. I swear it's like they're trying too hard.

Hooker > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 11/26/2014 at 14:30

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I feel like that will be a notable upgrade. The question is, will anyone notice?

crown victor victoria > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:38

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I agree with that, it's incomplete. Personally, a 2015 F-150 headlight treatment would have tied it in with the "truck" lineup more and would have made more sense for their portfolio. I guess they did that in the foglights, but the reference is largely destroyed by doing that. They're pushing the design connection into the background but it needs to be more prominent, IMO.

This just looks dated to me. We expect more dynamism from the front end in an update like this, and the the rest of it isn't dissimilar from the current Explorer. That is the defining characteristic of the vehicle and they went very conservative.

People are saying Hyundai this and LR that, but I think it's way more derivative of the Taurus X, all things considered.

jkm7680 > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:42

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It looks like it's gone back to 2005 again, where Ford was busy wasting money on concept cars that were obviously never going to go anywhere.

Hooker > crown victor victoria 11/26/2014 at 14:42

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Wow that's incredible. You're right. Sadly, truck looking crossovers don't always sell.

Hooker > jkm7680 11/26/2014 at 14:47

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Agreed. It's a hodgepodge of themes with little actual direction.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:48

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Probably not.

jkm7680 > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:49

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Wow! Thanks Ford!

crown victor victoria > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 14:54

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That's true, too, and that probably played a role in their decision.

All of the vehicles in this class with enough history to have been RWD, solid axle, body-on-frame construction with truck credentials - Trailblazer, Grand Cherokee, Pathfinder, etc - are now crossovers with none of those features. GC might be the only one that doesn't have a 3rd row option.

Hooker > crown victor victoria 11/26/2014 at 14:56

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GC doesn't have a third row option? Hmm. I don't think I see the point in a third row in some of these crossovers. Their useless, unremovable in many applications and take up too much cargo area space.

Boxer_4 > crown victor victoria 11/26/2014 at 15:02

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More like Ford Freestyle, but yes.

crown victor victoria > Boxer_4 11/26/2014 at 19:23

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The headlights sit flush against the grille on the X, which was the main thing for me. But both have the lights and grille on the same horizontal plane as the new Explorer does.

Still...a real yawner of a look.

crown victor victoria > Hooker 11/26/2014 at 19:26

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I dont see the point in it either. The Explorer has had a 3rd row option since 2001 i think, and it's as you describe - useless and space wasting.

But people want them. I give credit to Jeep for not compromising the GC with those despite not having a bigger car in the lineup that could have them.