What does Oppo think of the second-gen GS300?

"sm70- why not Duesenberg?" (sm70-whynotduesenberg)
11/06/2014 at 18:34 • Filed to: None

Reasonably handsome, non-bland luxury sedan with toys galore, good comfort and driving dynamics, reasonable reliability and MPG, holds value like any other Lexus/Toyota, and best of all, the straight six from a Supra sent to the rear wheels. I'm amazed they don't get more attention on here.

DISCUSSION (47)

TheHondaBro > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:35

It doesn't get more attention here because it doesn't look like a Supra.

AM3R > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:37

I've always liked them. Not so sure about cheap, like most lexus cars, they hold value pretty well with high miles.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:37

They probably don't get much attention here because GS/IS/LFA aside, there has been no Lexus that has not been a lazy Toyota rebadge or a Merc knockoff. Not that I dislike Lexus, it's just my impression of their historical products.

Steve in Manhattan > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:38

My uncle had one after his 300SD. As far as I know he had zero issues with it.

bob and john > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:38

I REALLY liked those. but as other said, they hold their value CRAZY well.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:38

Kinja'd!!!

I like it.

Textured Soy Protein > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:40

Reasonably handsome

No. Unless by "reasonably handsome" you mean "atrociously fugly."

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:40

10/10 would DD for 20 minutes and then turn into a stupid drift car.

Kinja'd!!!

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AM3R
11/06/2014 at 18:40

They're not first cheap like a high-mileage German car, but they're still reasonable.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Textured Soy Protein
11/06/2014 at 18:42

I lol'd

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > bob and john
11/06/2014 at 18:43

I've gathered as much.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
11/06/2014 at 18:45

Oh right. And popular with the tuner/drift/stance/VIP crowd due to the fact that on top of all those things, it's apparently easy to tune. Like I said, Supra engine.

SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O) > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3
11/06/2014 at 18:46

Great minds think alike

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Textured Soy Protein
11/06/2014 at 18:46

We got people all the time saying what a good-looking car it was, but I guess it's polarizing.

Decay buys too many beaters > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:52

I have less strong opinions about Lexus as a company than I do about what brand toilet paper I buy. They honestly just bore the hell out of me.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:53

Also, the white one that I posted has a TURBO FOUR-ROTOR ENGINE!!!!!!

T5Killer > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:53

I love those cars.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 18:54

I'm with you. I honestly like these things a lot! I think the reason why they don't get enough attention here is a lack of a manual.

E92M3 > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 19:04

Good cars but i can't stand the headlights. The whole car looks quite dated. I'd rather have an older ES myself.

D > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 19:10

I love 'em—in fact, I'm pretty fond of every generation of GS. I could see one in my future...

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD
11/06/2014 at 19:17

Both of those things are sad when you think about it.

Owen Hughes > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 19:22

By all accounts a very good car. They also did it with a UZ (GS430). Available in Japan with the turbo Supra motor 2Z-GTE (Aristo V)

DailyTurismo > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 19:26

Could you get them in the USA with a clutch pedal?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > DailyTurismo
11/06/2014 at 19:39

Not attached to the car.

Dsscats > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 19:40

It doesn't get attention because it's a meh car. Pretty much an oversized RWD Camry. Not attractive, not that good to drive in stock form, not interesting. And the Supra I6 is only a 2JZ-GE, not even the good one. You could get the same engine in the IS300 chassis with a manual and less weight to lug around.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Dsscats
11/06/2014 at 19:54

I always thought it was quite good to drive for what it was. And the engine wasn't the fastest, but it had a nice powerband.

N51fanatic > E92M3
11/06/2014 at 20:06

ES is FWD though

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 20:08

It is sad.

HammerheadFistpunch > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 21:25

Why yes, i have heard of amway, and no i dont want to try your new superfruit health drink.

Textured Soy Protein > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 21:28

I've hated it ever since it came out. The proportions are all wrong. It's trying to be swoopy and upright at the same time, and then inexplicably turns boxy for the too-stubby trunk. There's pretty much no surface detailing except the lights, but the headlights and taillights are misshapen blobs.

Some cars that I think look weird when they come out end up growing on me. The second-gen GS is not one of those cars.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 21:53

I was actually looking at one of these on Craigslist earlier. Along with IS300s.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > HammerheadFistpunch
11/06/2014 at 21:53

I'm going to take that as a no, even though I have no clue what it means.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/06/2014 at 21:55

Good luck finding a cheap one. As many people pointed out to me, depreciation was not this car's strong point.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 21:56

Considering the one I was looking at had like 225k on it and the seller wanted $6k. No, they do not depreciate AT ALL.

HammerheadFistpunch > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 21:57

this is the official (not really) car of multi level marketers

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/06/2014 at 21:59

Its like a Land Cruiser sedan.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/06/2014 at 22:01

Saw one of those with 255k on it and the seller was asking I think $6.5k for a late 80s model.

Toyotas hold their value too well.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > HammerheadFistpunch
11/06/2014 at 22:01

Alrighty then.

fritzo > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/07/2014 at 13:12

Good, reliable, cushy, and decently powered car. It's a bit dull and understated though.

RazoE > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/07/2014 at 14:45

It does not have a Supra engine, a Supra has ITS engine. The 1st Gen Aristo (GS300) debuted with the 2JZGE and 2JZ-GTE in 1991. Supras with 2Js came in 1993.5. Same with the 2nd gen. It debuted the VVTi 2JZ-GTE.

The reason I didn't get one was because they're a bit ugly and you can't get them manual.

My mom had a 1st gen and it was smoooooooooooooooooooooooooth.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > RazoE
11/07/2014 at 14:47

Dually noted about the first part.

Lack of a manual is annoying, but not really surprising.

cream wobbly > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/07/2014 at 14:55

non-bland

This is why we can't have nice things.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > cream wobbly
11/07/2014 at 14:58

Apparently, after some discussion, some people find it handsome, some find it hideous, while some don't find it anything. Never have I heard such mixed things about a car.

cream wobbly > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/07/2014 at 19:42

Okay, okay. I've never noticed these before so I didn't know how old they were, but it's from the blandest time of all for motoring. Everyone from Lada to Ferrari was building their cars to look like a used soap bar. So claiming it was "non-bland" wasn't exactly truthful.

The engineering? Sure, it's a Lexus. A straight six with decent MPG, you say? Well, owning one would mean one fewer to look at with my own eyes...

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > cream wobbly
11/07/2014 at 19:48

It was truthful inasmuch as I don't find it bland. Appearance is subjective.

And yes, you don't have to look at it while you're inside it.

BenLikesCars > sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/07/2014 at 20:17

It's a freaking sweet car. It's one of the few vehicles I'd consider giving up stick-shifting to have.

This, the first IS300, the SC300/SC400 and the LS430, that was Lexus at its peak.

jj > SmoresTM Has No Chill (O==[][]==O)
11/08/2014 at 16:31

The GS is probably the best daily driver I can think of: Cheap, Reliable, Luxurious, Comfortable, RWD, decent power, decent dynamics... If only it wasnt so fucking ugly.