well, i feel that the hellcats are irrelevant now...

"PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power" (petarvn)
11/04/2014 at 20:31 • Filed to: None

Five liters and a blower, that's 1.2 Liters less than Dodge, and it makes more power. Jesus. Fucking. Christ. the horsepower wars have just begun people.

Also, I wanna bring up a point... about 2 years ago, when the BRZ/FR-S hit the market, /DRIVE did a segment, in which they speculated the end of high-hp monsters, and a return to simpler, lighter, less powerful cars. I feel that the hellcats, and this rebut that argument wonderfully.

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DISCUSSION (50)

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:33

We'll see if they sell in a high enough volume to justify being made. These aren't cheap cars.

Dsscats > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:33

I'd still take the Hellcat. Fact is this is this is still an aftermarket kit without factory support.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
11/04/2014 at 20:34

I know but honestly? I'd rather blow $85,000 nonexistent USD on a 725HP mustang than $400,000 on a 695hp Lamborghini

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:34

Casually waits for the inevitable 800 horsepower Camaro to put Ford and Dodge back in their places.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:35

I'll let the dyno's talk. So far, there has been a Hellcat to dyno at over 800. Dodge's numbers are a bit conservative.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/04/2014 at 20:36

...ok I want to see that video. a stock hellcat dynoed at over 800RWHP?

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:36

I'm giddy with excitement, this thing is fucking mental. BURNOUT ALL THE THINGS!

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/04/2014 at 20:37

You mean my 900 HP dual superchargeer Z/28 doesn't count? (YouTube comments mode)

Montalvo > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:37

Is this a factory option? The whole reason why the Hellcat was a big deal is because it had batshit insane power right out of the factory doors. If this is just a tuning company that isn't going to put a nice big warranty and have adequate OEM support, then this car isn't quite as impressive.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:37

Confirmed from Chrysler. 707 is just a number lol. http://blog.caranddriver.com/2015-dodge-cha…

Cherry_man1 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/04/2014 at 20:37

Video or it didn't happen.

JAREAL > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:38

725 sounds like an estimation to me, but yes, the horsepower wars are well alive.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Cherry_man1
11/04/2014 at 20:38

No video, but confirmed from Chrysler. http://blog.caranddriver.com/2015-dodge-cha…

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:38

The 70s are back?? Rejoice!! :D

Right?

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:39

Holy fresh shit that's a mean looking machine. I am now torn between this and a Charger hellcat as a theoretical goal. Probably this because it likely handles better.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:40

I'd rather blow it on something that isn't a Charger or Mustang. I mean, I'm sure that they're really good, but what else do they do better than other cars for the same money other than burnouts?

LugNutz > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/04/2014 at 20:42

They unofficially tested it to 825hp, but it didn't meet emissions requirements at that level. It doesn't have that from the factory. Testing an engine outside of it's production specs is common.

Jayhawk Jake > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:42

Or the same amount of money on a 650hp Corvette

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
11/04/2014 at 20:44

I'd venture to guess that this (presumably $85K) Mustang will easily be able to take on an M3/M4, Lexus RC-F, and any other super-sports car you want to throw at it. sure it doesn't have all the electronic gizmos, but a proper driver would be hard pressed to drive with those on anyway

Cherry_man1 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/04/2014 at 20:44

I don't believe that one bit, even for a Jalop article. and it was even speculated it was a test engine.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:45

This is an aftermarket tuner, like Hennessey or any of the others. Don't mistake it as a factory option just because they partner with some Ford dealers.

But yeah, great time to be a car guy... As long as the robots (and legislators) don't take it out of our hands - literally - in the next decade or so.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Jayhawk Jake
11/04/2014 at 20:45

ok, the vette's a pretty good deal, since it is a corvette. not to sound like an american fanboy, but yeah :)

Milky > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:46

Ahh there it is, the comment I knew would show up. Looks like its not just Jalopnik with stupid people.

Kinja'd!!!

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/04/2014 at 20:46

hopefully not! if they try to I'm stockpiling old MG's, and putting coyote 5.0's in them, and pulling a "convoy" type scenario to boycott autonomous cars

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/04/2014 at 20:46

Now we just need those 6 mpg numbers again!

Thunderface > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:48

This thing is SO COOL

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Milky
11/04/2014 at 20:49

says the guy whose crotch rocket has a power to weight ratio 3X grater than the mustang's....

I love bikers and biking, but I can't stand the eons who feel like they own the road

PatBateman > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:49

It's a tuner car. When it comes off the assembly line like that with a Ford warranty, I'll be impressed.

03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:50

It should also be said that the King Cobra, which is essentially a bolt on car (supercharged 600HP, extra parts added to the IRS to make it stronger) ran a 10.97 on slicks. The Hellcat ran a 10.8 on slicks. Except that was an automatic and the Mustang was a manual. So assuming the RTR is built right, it'll be very, very quick. It's a stock to modded argument so it isn't completely fair, but still an interesting comparison.

Also it looks like Roush is offering a 777HP package!

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > PatBateman
11/04/2014 at 20:52

I know, but this is promising....

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
11/04/2014 at 20:53

Competing with Lamborghini MPGs

Challenge accepted.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > 03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST
11/04/2014 at 20:54

JESUS. ok the horsepower wars are just beginning....

Let's just wait and see how underrated the Z06 turns out to be...
and where's the 600+ HP Camaro???

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Cherry_man1
11/04/2014 at 20:55

Even if, that proves it is easily tune-able to over 800. RTR is basically an aftermarket deal anyway. Also, adding a supercharger to the already heavy Mustang will have it closing in on 2 tons, I'll take the Hellcat's extra 400 lbs for more useable interior space.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > LugNutz
11/04/2014 at 20:56

Yes, but that means that it'll make that pretty easily with a little tuning. The RTR is an aftermarket deal anyway.

Jayhawk Jake > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 20:57

It's going to be hard to beat the Corvette on a track

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Jayhawk Jake
11/04/2014 at 20:58

oh believe me, I know....

I'm just waiting to see what the ZR1 has in store this time around. 808hp, just to fuck with Chrysler?

03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 21:06

Probably not until the next generation. It's pretty exciting to see. I find it funny Hennessy surpassed Hellcat's 707 number with 717 and now Roush is with 777. All Boeing jets to!

Cherry_man1 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/04/2014 at 21:10

I'll take the RTR cause I like chineese trannys.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > 03mach1 - Now has a Fiesta ST
11/04/2014 at 21:20

as a seattelite, I want 747Hp....

BigBlock440 > Cherry_man1
11/04/2014 at 21:22

You don't believe a Hellcat was tested to 825hp by Chrysler but wouldn't pass emissions at that power level? What's unbelievable about that?

BigBlock440 > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
11/04/2014 at 21:24

According to Matt Farrah(sp?), the Challenger Hellcat handles the twisties as well as a 4C. It just doesn't feel like it does.

BigBlock440 > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
11/04/2014 at 21:26

I'd rather spend 60K on a 707hp Challenger than $85K that would only get me 18 more hp. Something you wouldn't even notice, 2.5% more.

Cherry_man1 > BigBlock440
11/04/2014 at 23:52

there is like 0 proof. unless i see a pic of the engine and the chart.....

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Milky
11/05/2014 at 01:51

No kidding. I drive cars with well over 600hp all the time, in rain, on shitty streets. They're a handful, even if you do know how to drive them, but I haven't killed anyone yet. Bad drivers kill people, not high powered cars.

Just realised I sound like an NRA commercial.

BigBlock440 > Cherry_man1
11/05/2014 at 07:39

Kinja'd!!!

Here's the engine

theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil > BigBlock440
11/05/2014 at 08:04

That's the first time I've heard that.. Quick! To the YouTubes!

BigBlock440 > theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil
11/05/2014 at 08:19

http://jalopnik.com/watch-matt-far…

Cherry_man1 > BigBlock440
11/05/2014 at 10:19

no that's the production engine not the fuel emission one

BigBlock440 > Cherry_man1
11/05/2014 at 11:01

It's the same engine...

You do realize a tune doesn't physically change an engine, do you? Well, unless the tune is shitty an puts a window in the block, but that's besides the point. What are you expecting to see different? Do you think manufacturers not test their engines to higher power levels?

Cherry_man1 > BigBlock440
11/05/2014 at 11:20

My issue is that could of been using experimental parts to make it go that high not a tune. I know tunes don't change an engine physically but the fact there is no image of the engine means it might not even exist and they are trying to make it kind of a "clickbait" thing