GM used the exact same transmission in...

"JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7" (jayzayeighty)
10/10/2014 at 21:17 • Filed to: None

The C3, C4, C5, and C6 corvettes. Think about that. Seriously, think about it. (And night oppo picture)

Where the JZA80 truly belongs.

DISCUSSION (37)

Steve in Manhattan > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:21

Is that the gearbox built by Tremec?

Frank Grimes > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:23

Uhh I don't believe this.

Alex from Toronto > Steve in Manhattan
10/10/2014 at 21:23

The corvette used a 4 speed auto up until 2006 (I think) maybe that's it.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:23

Didn't realize that the C6 came with a Muncie rock crusher

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Steve in Manhattan
10/10/2014 at 21:26

The 700r4 turbo hydramatic. It was used from the last year C3 all the way up to the first year C6!

For added effect...

Kinja'd!!!

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:27

The Turbo-Hydramatic had the most ridiculous name of any transmission ever.

And I dare anyone to defy me.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:28

Wouldn't the C5 and C6 and be a 4L60E?

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:29

I wonder how many generations my 6 speed Manuél in the 997 lasted

He definitely died in the 991

But the 996 (and maybe 993) could have had him

crowmolly > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:29

Not exactly...

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > Frank Grimes
10/10/2014 at 21:30

They changed the designation a few times. Started as a 700R4, then 4L60, then 4L60E. Same 4 speed automatic. Evensaw duties in pickups until 2010, and they still sell it as a crate trans.

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
10/10/2014 at 21:31

That would be awesome. YOU WANT A TRANSMISSION?! 4 SPEED MANUAL OR 2 SPEED POWERGLIDE.

But it's 2014

SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP.

Birddog > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:32

They got their money back in spades on that one!

DoYouEvenShift > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:32

Bentley, Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, Jaguar, and several more that I cant remember right now used the 4l80E.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H!
10/10/2014 at 21:33

My understanding is just that the 4L60E is an electronically controlled 700R4. I guess I would say essentially the same instead of exactly, but that's just splitting hairs.

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari
10/10/2014 at 21:37

R.I.P Manuel VI.

I think Porsche basically used the same 6 speeds in the 911s, not totally sure though.

Frank Grimes > TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H!
10/10/2014 at 21:39

700r4 are close but I think they are different from 4l60 and the 4l60e is electronic so I can sorta understand OP claim but I would argue the 4L60E is different enough with all its electronic control bits to be different.

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:40

I haven't driven Manuél VII in the 991 yet. The only 991s I have driven were PDK. Manuél VII is so rare cause nobody buys 991s with Manuél ;(

crowmolly > Steve in Manhattan
10/10/2014 at 21:40

No.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:46

I wonder how many rebuilds throughout the years have been done, just on that glass transmission.

crowmolly > Frank Grimes
10/10/2014 at 21:46

Not completely the same trans. At the very least the pump and valve body are different. 1998+ 4L60-Es have removable bellhousings.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H!
10/10/2014 at 21:47

The EPA would shit bricks.

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari
10/10/2014 at 21:48

It's 4:1 manual:automatic. It's okay, though. We have all the 911s we need! 993 and older cars are getting ridiculously expensive, though. Thanks, 3.2 Carrera, but you should not be as expensive as contemporary ferraris that were actually easy to maintain and make clinky noises when you shift gear.

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:51

Clinky noises... Drool

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari
10/10/2014 at 21:53

Taxtherich- how derivative.

Kinja'd!!!

Steve in Manhattan > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 21:54

So that's the automatic they used? ... I suppose there were a few different model manuals installed?

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
10/10/2014 at 21:57

Here's my idea. Ultra light current gen Camaro platform, stripped out interior, 5.3 Ecotec truck motor, $18,000, P/G or M22 are the only transmissions available. Solid axle out back, with rear seats available as an option. Edit: set to debut after 6th gen Camaro, call it a Monza.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H!
10/10/2014 at 22:04

The Z28 is about as light as the Zeta gets, the Alfa is much lighter.

TheLOUDMUSIC- Put it in H! > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
10/10/2014 at 22:08

Then make it a Chevy version of the ATS. It would be a drag monster either way.

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 22:12

Ahhhh yis

I wonder how much we can get a Ferrari 400 Manuél for

That car gets more hate than the 348 and the Mondial

Maybe we could get it for like $3K!

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Steve in Manhattan
10/10/2014 at 22:19

Yeah, it's just interesting because at first it was so new, and by 2005 people thought it was really outdated. Manual transmissions range all the way from 3 speed manuals in '68 (a pretty bad year quality-wise) along with four speeds until '81. '82 was slushbox only. '84 introduced the Doug Nash 4+3 which I like best (no bias), '89 introduced the ZF 6 speed, and '97 saw the T56 come into use which would remain the Corvette's manual trans through the C6.

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari
10/10/2014 at 22:22

The thing about the 400 is that its design shows so much restrain and originality. Meanwhile, they go nuts over the FF which probably will be looked at less-than-fondly 10 years from now.

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 22:25

Same goes for the 612!

Steve in Manhattan > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 22:38

Remember reading about those 70s and 80s limited production luxury cars (maybe the Bitter, and similar) that used 3-speed Chrysler autoboxes. Maybe GM thought that if you were disinterested enough to buy a Corvette automatic that you didn't deserve better. That sounds like the old GM. Looks like the C7 has a Tremec manual, which sounds like 1 or 2 gears to many to me, but I haven't driven it ....

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari
10/10/2014 at 22:39

The 612 shows the same restraint, and is awesome for that reason. The 360 may be far from pretty, but I'm afraid we only have "look at me" Ferraris to look forward to...

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 22:41

That's why all the Ferraris before the 458/F12/FF are the best Ferraris!

I wish my Dad's 612 was Manuél...

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari
10/10/2014 at 22:50

A gated 612 would be... Just... I can't use words to describe it. Still must be unbelievably cool to be able to drive any kind of Ferrari let alone a 612! I mean, I'd drive a Hyundai pony every workday to be able to drive/look at/touch a 612 every Saturday!

Boxer_4 > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7
10/10/2014 at 23:39

That's 1982-2005, or 23 years, correct? Not bad, but Subaru still has it beat. The 4EAT was used from 1988-2013, or 25 years.