Graveyard Shift Question: I Found a Porsche.

"Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW." (aya-yu) 10/06/2014 at 03:42 • Filed to: None

5

25

As the title said, i found a Porsche 356A Spyder on sale just a few hours from my house. It's very rough, has rust everywhere, and not even runs. I've text the owner and offer him 1000 bucks, and he agrees.

The question is, if i'm going to restore a Classic, is 356A Spyder is a good start? or the Coupe, since i also found a silver Coupe for about the same price?

Both has the 1.6l flat-4, both is silver, and both comes with all the paperwork needed. I Don't know how much a 356 can bring, since i think there's only 2 356 in concours level in Indonesia (A White 356A Spyder and Green 356A Coupe). But i believe the 356 could past 200k easily.

And oh, lastly, NP?

Here's the Coupe btw, similarly rough and not even runs too.

Jobjoris > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 03:49

0

Bot has the 1.9l inline 4

Excuse me?

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Jobjoris 10/06/2014 at 03:51

0

Oh, sorry i was listing my Lancer for sale today so it's mixed up. Fixed.

Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 03:55

0

What you're looking at is pretty much a glorified beetle IMO, I'd say it would be an interesting project to do.

Jobjoris > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 03:59

1

But i believe the 356 could past 200k easily.

Only the specials (SC's, Speedsters, very early models, original extremely low-milage) are in the 200+K range. 1000$ for a bad 356 is a NP all day long though!

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy 10/06/2014 at 04:01

0

Yeah. Plus the girl agrees so that's a huge plus.

But i'm also considering other cars like Volvo P1800 (i also found it on the net at much better shape than the Porsche for less than 1k) and Honda TN360 (Concours level kei-truck for 4.5k, what could possibly go wrong?)

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Jobjoris 10/06/2014 at 04:03

0

That price is Indonesian price.

Seriously, a Concours level W113 280SL could rack in 175k USD in Indonesia. Why the 356 can't?

So..
If you were me, will you get the coupe or speedster?

Jobjoris > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 04:14

0

I think a concours 'normal' 356 should be in the price-range of a concours-level 280SL pagode. But that's still no 200k as you state yourself ;-) I know next-to-nothing about the indonesian market so you can tell me anything.

I thought we were talking about a coupé or cabriolet, not a Speedster? A Speedster is epic!

I have a personal preference for the coupe over the cabriolet but with equal prices of purchase the cabriolet could be the more financially sound project. For those prices shipping it to Europe could be even attractive. So if you're going to look at it take lots of pictures, check the body intenively and get back to us!

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Jobjoris 10/06/2014 at 04:26

0

Well, i think it might be could then.

Oh yes, i mean the cabrio. I guess i'm a bit too excited about this project.

*I told the girl that this is a speedster tough to get her approval ;)

I think i'll look for it. I never seen an air-cooled porsche in my life.

Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 04:35

0

either way, it should be awesome. If there's rust, be prepared to patch holes.

Krieger (@FSKrieger22) > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 04:53

0

1K USD for this? NP. Thanks to scrap value laws here, I'd have to pay 500USD more... and my parents would kill me.

I'm leaning more towards the convertible myself, although I always sprung for the coupe in NFS: Porsche Unleashed... we're trying to flip a car here, not race it, right?

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Krieger (@FSKrieger22) 10/06/2014 at 04:57

0

Well, if my parents know maybe they'll kill me as well
*"Why on earth you bought that useless junk aya!"

Yep. I guess i'll check both cars since they're not very far apart.

Jobjoris > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 05:19

0

If the Coupé is really nearby you ppppplease check it out, I'll have it shipped to Europe if it's a solid body!

Not sure what a boattrip would cost me but I've always loved the 356-looks.

An air-cooled porsche is awesome. I own a '87 911 3.2. Best thing I ever bought.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Jobjoris 10/06/2014 at 05:23

0

Well, i'll try to check them out. There's a dent on the back judging from the photos posted.

Jobjoris > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 05:28

0

That dent probably isn't the biggest problem with this one I suppose. Could you translate this (globally) for me better than Google does?

Dijual satu unit mobil Porsche 356A Coupe tahun 1958 (ORISINIL).

Mesin masih orisinil 4 silinder 1600 cc. Kondisi belum hidup / mati, mesin tidak macet, diputer masih enteng.

Body bagus masih kaleng, Keropos tidak ada . aksesoris lis-lis lengkap semua. interior juga komplit jok dashboard speedometer stir. Dulunya mobil jalan, cuma sudah lama tidak dipakai dan belum sempat di restorasi lagi.

Surat-surat komplit bpkb , stnk ada ,,

Posisi mobil di BLITAR ..

Bagi yang minat serius bisa call di

087868807773 .

atau datang langsung ke alamat , Jl. Kenari No. 35 RT 02 RW 03 Kel. Plosokerep , Kec.Sananwetan , Kota Blitar,,

Harga: 33 Juta NEGO

Diutamakan kejujuran dan niat baik serius. Mobil seperti di foto. Ga kurang ga lebih. boleh dicek fotonya. Bukan tipuan atau ambil dari internet ,,

terimakasih ...

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Jobjoris 10/06/2014 at 06:57

1

Of course i can! :D

For sale one unit Porsche 356A Coupe made in 1958 (ORIGINAL)

The engine is still the original 4cylinder 1600cc. The car is not run/dead, the engine doesn't stuck, and fairly light to push

The body is straight, no rust (?), the accessories is also listed. The interior is great, there's seats, dashboard, speedometer, and steering wheel. The car used to ran, but it's never driven and never been restored in any way.

The pink slips and sales note is all exist there.

The car now lives at blitar.

If you really interested you can call at +6287868807773

Or you can come to Kenari Street No. 35 RT 02 RW 03 Kel. Plosokerep , Kec.Sananwetan , Kota Blitar.

The price was 33 Million IDR (Roughly 2150 EUR) or best offer.

The car looks like in the picture. You can check the photos that this is not stolen from the internet.

Thank you.

jkm7680 > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 07:17

0

NP for sure, Do it!

Sn210 > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 07:36

0

Either car would be an awesome project! Good luck and keep us up to date

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Jobjoris 10/06/2014 at 07:47

0

Oh ya, if you're really interested you can mail me at ceisar.uiop(at)gmail(dot)com

NoahthePorscheGuy > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 08:15

0

check and see if either have original engine. In terms of rarity both are close enough it doesn't matter, I would be more interested in which had more usable parts left and matching engine etc.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > NoahthePorscheGuy 10/06/2014 at 08:21

0

Well, both have an engine, but both of them is non runner.

I kinda wonder what if i stuck a beetle engine to save cost, but that would be cruel. Let's hope i can get some parts from local porsche dealer.

Jeremy H formerly Kalakaboooom > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 08:27

0

A fully restored, numbers matching 356, will get you some good money. The problem, is getting there. I own an older, but still fairly common Porsche (944), and the prices for parts on it is pretty insane.

I couldn't imagine the prices for 356 parts. If you've got the mechanical ability to do so, I would say go for it.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Jeremy H formerly Kalakaboooom 10/06/2014 at 08:31

0

Yeah, that's scares me the most. I'm afraid i can't recoup the monies that i spent on it.
*i'm willing to spent brand-new S500 monies on this thing, but i'm not really sure it's profitable.

Jeremy H formerly Kalakaboooom > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 08:40

0

If your end goal is to restore and sell it, then you will have to plan very carefully, do all of the work yourself, and use a lot of used/junkyard parts. I mean, for example on my 944, 1 motor mount costs 200 bucks, full clutch kit, 900. The list goes on. And as the years go by it becomes harder to find certain parts for these cars.

If you buy it, make sure you join a Porsche club, that will be your best bet to find quality parts at decent prices.

Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. > Jeremy H formerly Kalakaboooom 10/06/2014 at 08:45

1

And that's where the problem kicks in.

I'm sort of perfectionists man that never happy of my own work, unless the factory that put them together. I guess at this point 280SL is a much better car for me to start with, since i know a thing or two about old merc.

But i'll check the porsche anyway.

NoahthePorscheGuy > Aya, Almost Has A Cosmo With Toyota Engine Owned by a BMW. 10/06/2014 at 11:21

0

but for value, the exact numbers matching original from the factory engine is very very important. If you want to get the best chance you need to ensure both have the original engine and if one doesn't pick the other r