I don't get some people

"ncasolowork2" (ncasolowork2) 08/28/2013 at 12:35 • Filed to: None

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Maybe I'm off base this time, but after yesterday's pedo problem now we've got this... !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

CalzoneGolem > ncasolowork2 08/28/2013 at 12:37

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I guess I missed the pedo problems but this seems like some typical burner activity ... no offense ;)

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > ncasolowork2 08/28/2013 at 12:40

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Pedo problem?

Athorax > ncasolowork2 08/28/2013 at 12:40

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I agree with hatbob.

Party-vi > ncasolowork2 08/28/2013 at 12:52

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Assuming the plane is US based and is already in the UK I'm not sure if they could stock up on different snacks. The again how long before the flight did she inform the airline? I think the airline is required to accommodate her but up to a certain point.

HammerheadFistpunch > Athorax 08/28/2013 at 12:52

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Which part? That as human beings we should try and aid people with legitimate special needs? Or that someone serving one persons special needs in a way that doesn't inconvenience anyone in any particular way to prevent them from experience severe medical complications means that the world revolves around them?

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 08/28/2013 at 12:52

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Yeah, you're not the only one wondering about that. I must've missed it too..

HammerheadFistpunch > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 08/28/2013 at 12:55

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some comment about letting some burner teach your children about erections and such. On the NASCAR article. It was pretty creepy.

Jayhawk Jake > ncasolowork2 08/28/2013 at 12:55

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Eh I lean to side with hatbob. Maybe not the 'entitled' closer, but really, why should the airline cater the whole flight to one person's extreme condition? And I don't understand in the least how having a peanut service on the plane would endanger someone's life. What, if she touches peanut dust she DIES? Kindly ask your row to not have peanuts maybe, then you could avoid that. Or if it is so extreme that any contact with any amount of peanut is lethal, wear a jacket, some gloves, and a doctor's mask, it's not that difficult or expensive or inconvenient to take a few steps to cover yourself rather than requesting that an airline change its routine for a single person on the flight.

CalzoneGolem > Jayhawk Jake 08/28/2013 at 12:57

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Some people are allergic enough that if they inhale some dust it'll fuck them up good. Hard to avoid in an enclosed environment like a plane.

ncasolowork2 > Jayhawk Jake 08/28/2013 at 12:58

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Apparently if it is in the air it can cause a reaction. I'm sorry but I don't look at it as anything other than a handicap. If someone is handicapped we have wheelchair access. If someone has an allergy serve another snack? It'd be different if they had no easily available alternatives.

CalzoneGolem > HammerheadFistpunch 08/28/2013 at 12:58

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Oh yeah I read that. Thought I was on Reddit for a second.

ncasolowork2 > Party-vi 08/28/2013 at 12:59

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I believe as she was talking to the flight attendant there were baskets of peanuts sitting next to baskets of Pretzels.

Party-vi > ncasolowork2 08/28/2013 at 13:01

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Wait...so she got on the flight, saw the peanuts and then told the airline? Because that seems like poor planning. "OH I forgot to mention my DEATHLY ALLERGIC REACTION to peanuts."

Regardless, your FP encounters of late suck :(

ncasolowork2 > Party-vi 08/28/2013 at 13:04

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I don't think that was the case. This happened about 2 years ago so I'm trying to remember the details. The airline in question always has pretzels or peanuts available. I believe she made the request prior to the start of boarding. The person at the gate or flight crew didn't feel like serving pretzels that day? Either way the one fact I'm certain of is that she knew pretzels would be stocked and readily available to serve instead of peanuts.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > HammerheadFistpunch 08/28/2013 at 13:07

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Ahhh. I avoid NASCAR posts, that's probably why I missed it.

Jayhawk Jake > ncasolowork2 08/28/2013 at 13:28

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Yes, if someone is in a wheelchair, they get special assistance getting on the plane, not the whole flight changed to suit them. If someone needed a row of seats removed to fit their life support equipment, would you expect the airline to remove a row of seats for that?

If it's in the air and can cause a reaction, I don't see how just not serving peanuts on THAT flight solves the problem. There would be peanut dust on the plane regardless. If it's skin contact that's the issue, then one should probably avoid flying in a tube where contact with peanut dust may cause a problem, maybe by flying a different airline. If inhaling it is the problem, then surely wearing a mask would help, especially in combination with asking the people around you to opt for pretzels instead.

I'm all for giving people with handicaps equal opportunities, but being outraged that an airline wouldn't change the parameters of an entire flight to suit one person's handicap seems a little extreme to me.

Jayhawk Jake > CalzoneGolem 08/28/2013 at 13:29

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A surgical mask, or respirator?

Chances are if the airplane serves peanuts on any flight, there will be some peanut dust even if the flight you are on doesn't serve peanuts. It seems like a different, more personal solution would be necessary.

ncasolowork2 > Jayhawk Jake 08/28/2013 at 13:38

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I didn't relay the story well in my original comment, but I verified one fact. The airline always has peanuts and pretzels available to serve. She wasn't exactly asking them to inconvenience themselves by asking them not to serve the peanuts when there's a very viable alternative available.

Essentially you're proposing a ban on people with peanut allergies in terms of flying. I don't see how that isn't discriminatory.

Jayhawk Jake > ncasolowork2 08/28/2013 at 13:49

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How the fuck do you make the jump from my saying one person with an extreme peanut allergy shouldn't affect the whole flight to I want to ban people with peanut allergies?

Again, I raise the point. The airline has peanuts and pretzels, that much is established. So on the flight before your 'if I see a peanut, I will immediately suffer cardiac arrest and die' person, there's a good chance that someone, or quite possibly the entire plane, may have consumed peanuts. I don't know what you think airlines do between flights, but they don't decontaminate the plane with vacuums and change air filters. They pick up trash, restock food and drink, and reload the plane. So there's probably still peanut dust, maybe even whole peanuts on the plane. How does having the airline serve only pretzels on your handicapped friend's flight solve the issue? Why would your friend not be prepared to deal with peanuts knowing they will be on an airplane that probably will serve or has served peanuts in the past?

What would they do if they wanted to eat something that was made in a factory that process peanuts? Call up the factory and say 'Hey, for the next batch could you get rid of all the peanuts so that I can eat your tasty treat?' And when that factory said 'uh, no?', would you go to a food factory blog and complain that this food factory is discriminating against people with peanut allergies because they make food with peanuts?

Jumping to discrimination charges is childish. It's not discriminating someone if it's unrealistic to bend to the will of one person for a service provided to a few hundred people at a time. It's not like the airline won't let your friend fly if they don't eat peanuts. It's not like the flight attendant is going to shove the tiny bag of honey roasted peanuts down their throat. In a case like this, where the allergy is SO EXTREME that even the thought of someone eating peanuts next to them would literally kill them, then I'm sorry but the responsibility should be on the person to figure out a solution, in the very least a backup plan. I see no problem with requesting that the airline not serve peanuts, but if they say sorry, we can't do that, then be ready to deal with peanuts while you sit in your chair flying at 600 miles per hour at 35,000 feet in the air. Bring a respirator, they aren't expensive and it's not illegal to have one. Ask the people around you to not eat peanuts because they make you sick. Don't just expect the airline to bend over backwards to cater you, and don't start throwing around claims of discrimination because the airline can't or won't make a change to it's service for one singular persons extreme condition.

Slave2anMG > ncasolowork2 08/28/2013 at 13:52

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With peanuts and pretzels, sounds like a Southwest flight. And myself being a regular Southwest flyer I can promise you that there's gonna be peanut detritus all OVER that airplane - the carpet, the seatback pockets, under the seat cushions. Everywhere. That's bad enough but how about the guy in the row behind you who pops open a can of peanuts to munch on? Or a package of peanut butter crackers by the guy sitting next to her?

Or perhaps she's not that allergic and asking the people sharing the row and maybe in front/behind to skip the peanuts would have taken care of it...but if she's that allergic I'm sorry she needs a respirator just to deal with the leftover mess, to say nothing of the other passengers and what they might have brought aboard.

Athorax > HammerheadFistpunch 08/28/2013 at 17:01

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yes