fuck this year. fuck this year SO god dam hard

"bob and john" (bobandjohn)
09/24/2020 at 12:21 • Filed to: None

T he VFR is gone. Dumb fucking person turned left in front of me. No warning. There was another car turned left from my side and she decided: i cant see, i’ll fucking go anyways!

stupid mother fucking bullshit ************ I’mma stop before I say something I shouldnt.

I bounced. I have absolutely ZERO injures from this. Airbag jacket went off and took some of the impact.

Insurance...well, they arent going to give me the $ 3500 I have in this bike. Nor the blood, sweat, or tears back. I’m not even going to claim it, as its ANOTHER claim on my record in a year. I’m just going to part it out and take the hit.

The bike is 2 feet shorter then it should be.

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DISCUSSION (100)

TheJWT > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:31

God damn. Glad you’re alright but those pictures are hard to look at. That was a really cool bike

shop-teacher > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:32

Oh no!

Why would it be a hit on your insurance? This should go against the other driver.

bob and john > TheJWT
09/24/2020 at 12:32

I break down into tears when i open my garage right now. I cant even look at it.

i MIGHT be able to rebuild it. But panels are SO fucking hard to find. I dont even want to try.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:33

Man, that fucking sucks. Sorry dude, I take it the bike is too far gone and can’t be saved?

Cash Rewards > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:33

Sorry, this sucks. Glad you're ok

bob and john > shop-teacher
09/24/2020 at 12:33

no fault insurance in ontario. I still have a claim that would show up on my record, regardless of who is to blame.

bob and john > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
09/24/2020 at 12:34

I MIGHT be able to save it. But forks, wheel, dashboard, fairings...fucking impossible to find for this thing. It would actually be easier to find another one and take whats good from this and put it on that.

user314 > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:35

Oof! Thank God you’re okay! Good news about the jacket working. T hat second pic is just painful to look at.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:36

How can you possibly not see the bright red and white motorcycle in the oncoming lane? Thank God you were wearing the proper safety equipment as it seems that driver did her best to run smack into you. That sucks beyond belief. Do you live in a no fault state? Because your insurance company should be thanking you for wearing safety gear so you aren’t in the hospital rather than penalizing you for being the victim of negligence .

Nibby > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:36

dude glad your airbag jacket saved your ass! and that you’re okay.

also it’s ALWAYS a fucking rogue

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:38

Ugh, sucks man. I guess give it a couple of days to clear your head and get over the anger/shock of the accident and reassess your options.

VincentMalamute-Kim > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:38

Poor bike. Really sorry for one less very cool bike on the road and the work you put into it. Zero injuries is great.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:38

Sorry to hear, fuck 2020!

dogisbadob > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:38

glad you’re ok

RallyWrench > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:38

Fuck man, I’m sorry but so thankful you weren’t hurt. Hate to see a machine like that taken by another person’s idiocy, these bikes are super cool.

NYankee1927 > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:40

Ahhh the glorious we cannot possibly be responsible for our own actions laws.

I’ve been on the end of this too. I ended up screaming at the guy to say “so let me get this straight, I should wait at a stopsign until a car comes along, can’t possibly stop in time, then pull out infront of them if I want the other half of my car fixed. Because apparently They’ll be half at fault too.” Not my finest moment talking to an insurance adjuster.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
09/24/2020 at 12:40

I read it as:

He was going straight through an intersection with a green light. To his left is a left turn lane. Same situation on the opposite direction of travel. Drivers in both left turn lanes. Person in the left turn lane from opposite direction of travel didn’t wait til they had visibility, went for it, hit him.

Don’t make turns if you cannot see oncoming traffic...

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:41

Fuck that.

How many times has an airbag jacket saved your ass? Twice this year, at least.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/24/2020 at 12:43

Oh, okay. I am in that situation frequently and I just wait until I know I’m not going to turn across someone. I see tons of people have near misses that way. I can understand how a motorcycle would be harder to see around another car but that’s exactly why you don’t assume there isn’t a motorcycle behind the other car.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
09/24/2020 at 12:45

I will freely admit that when I was younger, more impatient, and much stupider, I did the same move as the person who hit Peter frequently. After a few near misses, I haven’t in a while. I’m not going to miss the ten seconds tops I might save by doing it. People get right on my ass at intersections when I do it, but fuck em. I don’t want to kill someone.

bob and john > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/24/2020 at 12:46

wasnt even an intersection! she was turning left into a driveway for canadian tire. There was another car turning left from MY direction of travel that was in front of her. Instead of waiting for clear, she just went.

bob and john > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/24/2020 at 12:46

yep. I refuse to ride without it now.

Urambo Tauro > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:49

she decided: i cant see, i’ll fucking go anyways!

Ugh people in my area seem to have the exact same thought process. Glad you’re ok man.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:49

What jacket do you have? I’ve heard of them, but never looked into it as I don’t ride.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/24/2020 at 12:50

Yeah, why risk it? I’m perfectly happy to experience a little while longer of sitting in traffic in exchange for significantly reduced risk of killing someone.

Speed > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:50

This year is a real thumb in the ass for sure. My dog got ran over a couple days ago so I feel you on it being a tough week (Side note, she’s improving every day and I think she’ll make a solid recovery). Luckily you made it out physically unscathed to ride another day.

I feel you though; you can’t replace the time, effort and sweat equity you’ve poured into something most see as a simple machine. If you decide to rebuild it, shoot us some more details and we can scour the local classifieds for the parts you might need to put it back together. I see plenty VFR’s, but I don’t know what year yours is or what in particular you may need.

facw > NYankee1927
09/24/2020 at 12:50

Alternatively , the “don’t waste massive amounts on lawsuits determining blame” laws

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:50

Goddamn idiot. That’s beyond irresponsible. This sucks.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:51

Probably on a cell phone too.

I think you can count yourself extremely fortunate that you went over the hood and didn’t splat against the sides of the crossover. Clipping that A pillar on the way over also could have been disastrous. Seems like a best case scenario for a deeply unpleasant and unnecessary encounter.

KSUENGINEER > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:51

It’s good you were able to walk away from this. I can only imagine the frustration you must be going through.

If you decide to rebuild, check out Tyga Performance . They have replacement panels for the VFR400. Some of their own fairing designs are really cool too. Best of luck for however you decide to handle this.

Kinja'd!!!

facw > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:51

Shit. Glade you made it out ok at least. Too bad about the bike.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:52

I know this isn’t what you want to hear right now , but at least you walked away and we're glad you're okay

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/24/2020 at 12:53

Might just be good for going down flights of stairs and stuff.

bob and john > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/24/2020 at 12:54

I have the Alpinestars Missle Tech-air compatible jacket.

I have the race air bag in it. Its a good, if expensive system

https://www.alpinestars.com/pages/tech-air

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:55

How did your interactions go with the driver? I can’t imagine I would have been very nice

bob and john > KSUENGINEER
09/24/2020 at 12:57

this is a VFR750, not a 400. RC-36-2. impossible to find parts for... *sigh*

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:58

sucks about the bike but glad to hear you’re okay mate

sony1492 > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 12:59

Im sorry man, at least the gear held you together to fight another day..

Shouldn’t her insurance cover your bike though because she’s at fault?

bob and john > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
09/24/2020 at 12:59

She tried to apologise to me. I told her to stay the hell away from me, lest SHE end up taking a ride in an Ambulance.

bob and john > sony1492
09/24/2020 at 13:00

no fault insurance in ontario. I would have to put the claim through my company (and have the record) even if I was nt at fault.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:00

Was she found at fault for the incident? Cause if she was maybe her insurance can pay for the bike vs your own

WilliamsSW > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:02

So glad you had the gear on. Not that I would expect otherwise, just glad.

But fuck you’ve had some shit luck. And fuck that dumbfuck. Take her fucking license.

Good on you for not kicking her ass. Not that she didn’t deserve it.

bob and john > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
09/24/2020 at 13:03

she is at fault. But no fault insurance in ontatio. So regardless, i make a claim and it goes against my record. Which, as a 25 year old guy with a claim already, my insurance would drop me.

easier for me to just leave it and walk away. try and rebuild the VFR or sell off the parts.

bob and john > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
09/24/2020 at 13:03

kinja double post

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:04

That her in the jacket with patches?

sony1492 > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:04

Christ, cant magine the frustration.

Thats bullshit being finan cially or otherwise, on the hook for their fuckup.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:05

Sorry Dude, this sucks blue whale penis , and I’m very glad you escaped serious injury.

bob and john > sony1492
09/24/2020 at 13:05

the insurance company woudl write it off anyways. and I didnt want that. at least i’m keeping the wreck and selling off the good parts (subframe, tail, rear wheel, MOSFET rectifier, WP rear shock....)

bob and john > WilliamsSW
09/24/2020 at 13:07

this happened about a week ago now. But I wont lie, i SERIOUSLY considered giving up riding because of it. Do everything right, and still this ****** ________ fucking ******* _______ god-dam !#$@#

I’m mad. I’m sad. I’m really fucking upset over it, but fuck. I live to ride another day. Move on and deal with it I guess

bob and john > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
09/24/2020 at 13:08

no, she was some old asian lady.

oh, best part? The car ALREADY had crash damage.

dumpsterfire! > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:12

Glad you have working body parts and coherent brain activity after getting whacked. Now...motherfucking, idiot distracted, incompetent cagers burn in hell for using a fucking Nissan to erase a beautiful VFR.

hillrat > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:19

This is why people drive like asshats, there’s basically no consequences for their stupidity and selfishness.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:22

I’m sorry to hear someone ruined your blood, sweat and tears. I’m assuming this has been your favourite bike and you worked hard for it.

At least you’re OK and you can move on to something else. +1 for airbag jacket.

bob and john > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
09/24/2020 at 13:26

funny enough, it was actually my least favorite bike of my current collection.

But i do not have a lot of stuff that i am good at. Wrenching on bikes is one of them. This was as deep of a restoration as I have ever done. It was my pride and my showcase of my work.

and now its gone.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:29

Got it. Yeah sorry bro, at least it should be positive from here on. Looking fwd to your next project.

Moltenburn > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:34

Broooooo. Take the hit and F ranklin D-Azar her ass. You will hurt in the coming days. Personal injury lawyers live for this. Your the guy who gets the “ My Lawyer got my $200,000 for my accident” guy.

OPPOsaurus WRX > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:35

I’ve been wanting to rid e my (mountain ) bike to work but every time i decide to i hear about someone else losing a battle with a 4ooo pound vehicle. One of our HVAC guys was run over in Cambridge and someone’s mechanic on here was run over too. I don’ t really want to be n ext. There are too much inattentive or just plain dumb people out there.

bob and john > Moltenburn
09/24/2020 at 13:36

this accident was almost 2 weeks ago. I genuinely have no pains or any thing from it.

also, the law aint quite as straight forward in canada. I just wanna move past this.

Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:40

I’m glad you’re okay.

Just... Damn, it’s hard to look at with such a clean VFR . I know too well the goofs making lefts.

atfsgeoff > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:41

I’ ve very narrowly avoided three instances of exactly this same situation over the years.

Question, where in the lane were you as you followed the car turning left from your travel lane?

bob and john > atfsgeoff
09/24/2020 at 13:42

I was in the left lane, right tire track.

shop-teacher > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:45

Brutal. Fucking brutal.

atfsgeoff > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:48

It is possible the old Asian lady legit didn’t see you as her vision was obstructed by the car between you and her that was turning left opposite to her intended path. Particularly since you were on the opposite side of the vision obstructing car..

Traditional wisdom there is to stick to the left tire track when following behind other cars, so opposing traffic can more easily see you instead of being hidden behind the cars in front of you.

Still her fault but, there may not have been a good line of sight

krustywantout > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:49

Always good to hear a fellow rider was unhurt but sad to hear a fellow rider went down. I understand that Canadian laws are different than in the US but I would at least send a letter demanding compensation for the bike and your air bag jacket . But I totally understand if you just want to move on. I would say that you should not tempt fate and ride again this year. Some time off the bike will help you clear your mind and also realize how much you really miss it.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 13:50

This seriously sucks so bad man...saw it on the FB Group...I’m just glad you’re OK considering the last time this happened. Did you have a helmet or dashcam going or anything...? It’s stuff like this that made me get one...

bob and john > atfsgeoff
09/24/2020 at 13:54

2 lane (each side) road with a center lane for turning.

right tire track would have given me most visibility to her. (car in the other lane turning into the can tire)

and if you cant see around a c ar, DONT. FUCKING. GO.

bob and john > krustywantout
09/24/2020 at 13:56

I have the canadian winter to help with the non-riding part.

I need to clear the garage and get to work.

as foir the bike, I would have to claim with my insurance (no fault insurance) and seeing as I already have a claim (my wreck at the start of the year ) my insurance would drop me)

bob and john > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
09/24/2020 at 13:57

nope. I dont record my rides as, well, I do some stuff i’d rather other not see.

But, its getting to that point.

kleeBRZ > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 14:03

shouldnt her insurance pay for it? it’s clearly her fault for not yielding right of way. what did the police report say?

KSUENGINEER > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 14:06

Ahhh damn! The parts shortage totally makes sense now. Sorry for your loss.

krustywantout > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 14:06

Got it. I would still send a letter to the driver asking for compensation if you are not going though the insurance company. Maybe she will pay something because of guilt. It can’t hurt.

My bird IS the word > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 14:06

Winter is coming up, give it a couple months to get over. Can't say I didn't feel the same way after I stuffed my first car for practically no reason.

sn4cktimes > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 14:55

Fellow rider. Fuck man, that really blows. I’ve come — > <— that close to being clipped before a few times. I think almost all of us riders have. Pretty inexcusable scenario there. I think drivers who don’t see bikes wouldn’t see a Prius or even an Escalade either.... I ride an Enduro and my face lines up with drivers in F-350's while I’m sitting, and they sometimes still don’t see me ... Shitty insurance law there... I’m in Alberta and have experienced a shady scenario MANY years ago. Same insurance company on both sides of an incident just no-faulted it even after the cops clearly labelled fault on the other driver. Their Cadillac changed lanes into my CRX so hard that he ended up on the sidewalk and me past that ... Not sure what their game-plan was there...

Really glad to hear you’re okay. I always ride around in armour. It can often make that difference between totally fine vs not-good-things.

I think my fav parts on that bike are the wheels. I guess s alvage what you can and maybe have a good timeout on it. Decide if it’s a rebuild or a sell the parts and move on to something else. Either scenario really sucks given the work you put into it. You’ll either have another one, or help someone else keep theirs going. Stay safe man.

ClassicDatsunDebate > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 15:18

Jesus Christ . Glad you’re ok.

ClassicDatsunDebate > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 15:19

But if it’s not your fault, shouldn’t the other driver’s insurance be the one taking the hit??

SpeedSix > sn4cktimes
09/24/2020 at 15:20

A couple months ago, we were found 100% at fault for an incident where someone rear-ended us (in Ontario), and we took it up directly with the insurance company’s ombudsman (same company for both sides) and got it reversed - other party 100% at fault, as it should’ve been in the first place.

DipodomysDeserti > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 15:25

Goddamnit.

bob and john > ClassicDatsunDebate
09/24/2020 at 15:26

no fault insurance. So I have to make the claim with my company and then they go after hers

no. Its another claim on my record

ClassicDatsunDebate > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 15:28

I guess thats ONE benefit of our communist insurance here in BC

Tapas > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 15:45

As I’ve said earlier, fuck everything and their mother. This year sucks so hard, it’s not even funny.

Still glad you’re unhurt man.

bob and john > Tapas
09/24/2020 at 15:54

like, at this point, i want to say give me your best shot.

but shit, with the way things are going, that might turn out really really poorly

Captain of the Enterprise > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 16:06

I’m glad your okay, it’s a shame about the bike. What is your airbag jacket? That sounds like a cool thing and while I don’t ride I could send it to my friend who does.

sn4cktimes > SpeedSix
09/24/2020 at 16:07

Yeah, I was pretty young and busy trying to make ends meet at the time. I ran as many hoops as I could; and without getting a lawyer involved (which I could in no way pay for, or take time off to deal with) I wasn’t going to get anywhere. The damage to the Honda was strikingly little. So I took my “no fault” scenario and got on with life. Payed a bit to fix the fender/bumper out of pocket down the road when I could stomach a few hundred.

If an insurance company tried this kinda shit with me now though... hoo boy. Get the team together, I’m getting what owed for the incident, then taking the insurance company to task for being so shady.

fintail > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 16:22

This is exactly why I don’t ride in the Seattle metro - idiotic left turns by derpy CUVs driven by feckless drones who in a just society wouldn’t be behind the wheel at all . At least we don’t have the bullshit of no-fault insurance, anyway - the mind behind that should be consigned to the dustbin of history (saying what I really think would probably have our brave warrior praetorian national security type s coming after me) .

Glad you’re OK, I know you’re into wearing proper gear, this is a commercial for it.

bob and john > Captain of the Enterprise
09/24/2020 at 16:22

expensive, is what it is.

jacket + airbag vest. cost me ~1700 cad.

https://www.alpinestars.com/pages/tech-air

PyramidHat > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 16:34

No no...don’t do that. A cohort of mine told me “I used to say that it can’t get any worse... I’ve learned to not say that, now...”

PyramidHat > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 16:35

Fuck, man. OK, glad you’re OK (again).

Tapas > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 16:36

If you’ re down to drown your sorrows in alcohol, let me know. I can swing by with some beer

CivicWagonEngineer > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 16:47

I just found this website , sounds like if you decide to rebuild this guy might be able to help find parts

NYankee1927 > facw
09/24/2020 at 16:48

But there are lawsuits because many things are not black and white. When something is black and white like this, there should be no lawsuit. The person turning infront of a motorcycle gets to pay (or their insurance).

Mercedes Streeter > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 16:48

I definitely need one of those jackets now. Holy crap.

Sorry to hear about the bikes. :( I can’t imagine the restraint you had to not go nuts on her for this. Stupid no-fault area.

WiscoProud > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 16:49

Still cheaper than a caved in chest though

bob and john > Tapas
09/24/2020 at 16:50

not this week. but lets do some drinks in oct.

WiscoProud > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 16:50

Thats horrible. I had an 86 VFR 700 back in the day, and wish I had kept it. I’ll always have a soft spot for them.

That said, its clearly her fault for not looking, it shouldn’t impact your insurance I would think (well, too bad anyways)

Tapas > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 16:54

Sounds like a plan.

Stef Schrader > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 17:45

Oh my gosh. I’m so sorry. What a beautiful bike, too.

Glad to hear you’re mostly okay, but watch out for the aches and pains that might spring up a little later. Take care of yourself, man.

Captain of the Enterprise > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 20:23

Wow

The Compromiser > bob and john
09/24/2020 at 20:24

Dude. Glad you're okay. But, dude....

bob and john > The Compromiser
09/24/2020 at 20:34

i’m pissed. this was NOT my fault. fucking people