Too bad this would never work in The States

"boredalways" (boredalway666) 09/11/2020 at 23:19 • Filed to: Citroën Ami, The Guardian, Urban mobility

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To be fair, there isn’t any place here where a young teen or adult could drive it and be safe outside a gated community, country club, amusement park, or on university property. Still cool tho.

PS9 > boredalways 09/11/2020 at 23:29

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We have our version of that, it’s the Craigslist Cavalier. You gotta wait a bit longer than 14 before you get to drive one, but the acceleration, interior room and structural integrity are just about the same as the Ami!

... Okay that's a lie. No way any Cavalier has structural integrity even half as good as that french cube, but everything else is a match! 

ranwhenparked > boredalways 09/11/2020 at 23:31

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Yeah, at 28mph, it would be pretty much unusable for most purposes. I mean, if it could at least cruise at 45, maybe you could make a business case for like DUI cases who have permission to drive to work or something

smobgirl > boredalways 09/12/2020 at 00:12

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Ok but what’s the minivan-ish thing next to it in the top photo?

smobgirl > ranwhenparked 09/12/2020 at 00:13

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Maybe good on a college campus? They’d be better off with speed-restricted vehicles anyway. 

boredalways > smobgirl 09/12/2020 at 00:42

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Renault Kangoo

smobgirl > boredalways 09/12/2020 at 00:47

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I love all the windows. 

Svend > smobgirl 09/12/2020 at 00:53

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With the roof rails it looks to be a Mercede s Benz Citan (aka Renault Kangoo aka Nissan NV250).

Exterior

Interior

Could also easily be one of it’s siblings the Renault Kangoo.

or Nissan NV250

Svend > boredalways 09/12/2020 at 00:58

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It’s the gen after this one that got the more curved rear side window.

Kangoo I

Kangoo II

ranwhenparked > smobgirl 09/12/2020 at 01:29

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Are there many campuses where students drive cars from building-to-building around the property? I just drove to and from campus, parked in the lot, and walked between classes. Hell, there was only one parking lot close to the academic buildings, and I had to get elected into the student se nate just to get a pass for it, instead of the main lot half a mile a way.

duurtlang > ranwhenparked 09/12/2020 at 02:17

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45 kmh (28 mph) is the maximum legal speed someone with a moped license can drive. If it could legally go faster, you’d need a proper driving license. Which is costly (€1500+?), takes a lot of time and you’d need to be a few years older. And at that point, why not get a real car anyway?

City streets have a speed limit of 50 kmh, so a vehicle legally capable of doing 45 plus a bit of margin is fine.

Jb boin > ranwhenparked 09/12/2020 at 05:59

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It’s actually alr eady the case, cars of that category that doesn’t require a full licence are used by peoples who had their license removed for repeated DUI and worst offenders are forbidden to pass a normal license for years.

It totally makes sense in most big European cities, especially on car- sharing platforms, meaning that you can lend one like a scooter from an app on your phone and leave it on another part of the city.

I have friends in big cities that don’t own a car anymore and use such service when needed and it’s perfect for that use and it would also be perfect for tourists that could visit some spots of the city (or around) that can’t be accessed by tramway or metro for example without having to rent a full size car that costs sensibly more, needs more papers to be signed and needs a parking spot to keep it while you have it .

Kar Wai Wong > Svend 09/12/2020 at 07:10

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It’s a p re-facelift Renault Kangoo, only those have the triangular side turn signal.

Svend > Kar Wai Wong 09/12/2020 at 07:34

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The roof rail was the thrower for me, as I’ve not come across a Kangoo with a roof rail.

Though the Renault makes more sense than a Mercedes in France. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > ranwhenparked 09/12/2020 at 09:01

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Isn’t that the exact market for VSPs? People who lost license for drinking and driving?

Oh, and teens, I guess

smobgirl > ranwhenparked 09/12/2020 at 09:12

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Thinking of the colleges where the campus is surrounded by residential areas filled with college kids and 20-25 mph speed limits and the students  insist on driving the half mile to campus. Between the fact that as drivers they’re always speeding because they left home too late and as pedestrians they’re always meandering out into traffic without looking...

Spanfeller is a twat > boredalways 09/12/2020 at 09:49

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A yes, another way for the French youth to be insufferable. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > ranwhenparked 09/12/2020 at 09:49

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If you live at Berry College, yes. Can confirm that walking between buildings there can be a little painful. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Svend 09/12/2020 at 09:53

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That h ood shut line is something else.

ranwhenparked > smobgirl 09/12/2020 at 11:08

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So, stick it on a trailer, tow it to school, use it purely for driving a few blocks back and forth, but still need something else for longer trips or for driving to parts of town with higher speed limits, and also trailer it back and forth each semester

smobgirl > ranwhenparked 09/12/2020 at 11:35

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We weren’t allowed cars my first year. Something like this, maybe owned by the school, rented per semester, and using special parking areas just for them (since they take up less room!) would have been perfect. I’m just brainstorming, and you’re being argumentative about something that doesn’t f ucking matter since they’ll never be in the US anyway.

ranwhenparked > smobgirl 09/12/2020 at 11:47

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Yeah, as a rental, they’d work. A lot of touristy towns already have Chinese low speed EVs or some of those Norwegian T h!nks for daily rental for use just around the town center. Neighborhood Electric Vehicles are capped at 35mph, presumably the Citroen has some sort of governor that could be adjusted. As for not hitting the US market, NEVs don’t have to pass crash tests and are exempted from almost all equipment and design conformity regulations, this is exactly the sort of thing a private company could import themselves in small numbers with or without Stellantis' help.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > boredalways 09/12/2020 at 14:39

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I think it’s cool and would work really well in an urban environment....but I wish they wouldn’t ’ve have called it the Ami...it is nothing like the original Ami :(

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > duurtlang 09/12/2020 at 14:43

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Currently, I know here in Nova Scotia, the only motorized vehicles you can drive without a license on public roads are mopeds of less than 49cc (or it’s equivalent in the form of an electric moped) and they HAVE to have functioning foot pedals (like a bicycle) and are limited to 35kph :/

That being said, the current Motor Vehicle Act is set for a HUGE revamp next year, so that could change....I am hoping they add a category for low speed neighbourhood vehicles, as they’d be perfect for popping to the shops.

Also...I am hoping they add in a class for autocycles so I can import a Piaggio Ape TM after I import my FIAT 126p...currently an Ape wouldn’t be legal here because the current Motor Vehicle Act has no regulations on three wheeled vehicles where the seating is side by side :/

duurtlang > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 09/13/2020 at 02:03

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We have this 49 cc rule as well. As far as I know these 4-wheeled mopeds with a roof also only have 49 cc. Or are electric.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > duurtlang 09/13/2020 at 09:38

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I’m not sure if 4-wheeled ‘mopeds’ would be legal here.