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"HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles" (hondasfordsvolvo) 07/26/2020 at 20:50 • Filed to: None

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I know some of you are boat guys. I am a boat noob. But I want to get boat. A cheap boat, which I’m aware is an oxymoron. I also have an attraction to old Runabout style boats. It also needs to be small since I’d have to be able to tow it with my 328i.

I found this locally. And I might go look at it. What should I be looking for? The ad says the engine runs, but not much else.

So when I say I’m a noob. I really mean it. Like I don’t know how the steering is set up on these. I’m guessing the throttle is just a typical cable? Downs small boat like this still have pitch adjustment for the engine/prop? How would a sport haul problems other thank just looking for cracks? How fast can can a boat like this go? I’m not worried about water skiing or anything like that, I just don’t know how fast boats are lol. I do know that if I had 9k to spend I’d be Buying this 7 passenger twin jet Sea doo. Altho id also need to buy a truck to tow it. 

jminer > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/26/2020 at 21:13

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I love old fiberglass runabouts like this, they’re light and look awesome. I’ve had 2 but  they’re not perfect though.

No, you usually don’t get any real adjustment on the outboard, just out of the water and in the water. Steering is usually a wire strung around the boat and for controls you’re lucky if you get electric start. Fuel mileage is terrible on those old 2 strokes and they really don’t like gas with ethanol. The fast ones will do 30 mph, and for some reason the steering is on the wrong side on that boat.

That being said, they’re very cheap, easy to fix and fun.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > jminer 07/26/2020 at 21:30

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This reply is encouraging. Good.

I was wondering is it’d be a 2 stroke or not. 

jminer > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/26/2020 at 21:47

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That will definitely be a two stroke, most all were until the late 90s, like dirt bikes.

Don’t pay more than $1500 for one as that’s all they’re worth unless particularly special. Maybe even $1k as the  interior looks rough on that one. Boat seats get expensive fast as does most of it, think of it like a project car but where everything needs to be waterproof so it’s more expensive. Also don’t ever expect to get out what you’ve put in it when you sell it. Boats are an expensive hobby.

Sovande > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/26/2020 at 22:06

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Tell him you'll haul it away if he gives you $500.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > jminer 07/26/2020 at 22:13

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The asking price on this one is 750 right now. I have wife approval for 500 bucks. And 600 in cash at the moment 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Sovande 07/26/2020 at 22:25

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I’m hoping he’ll let me haul it away from 500. 

jminer > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/26/2020 at 22:29

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That would be fun at that price. What are the title laws on boats and outboards there? In Missouri you have to title and register both.

If the fiberglass is solid and the boat runs that price is less than a decent kayak and more fun for a couple folks at once.

Nom De Plume > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/27/2020 at 00:25

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Budget for new cleats and reinforcement for being towed from all sides. On that note buy a good quality rope and learn how to use it. Then carry $20 bills and a credit card.

Not kidding one bit. She dies you and drift into the weedy shallows it’s no longer a pleasure cruise. Personally I’d buy a small fishing boat and make a concrete anchor. Little 8hp engine and let the only thing breaking be you two  sitting still all day with a line out.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Nom De Plume 07/27/2020 at 01:39

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Your advice is far to logical.

There’s lots of small aluminum fishing boats for sale. The problem is they don’t excite me. The same way a Prius C doesn’t excite me. Like the Prius does the same job, but I’d rather spend a bit more and get something that looks  good doing it. 

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/27/2020 at 01:46

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I once owned a twin-engine speedster from that era. They are not only fun, but they are actually legitimately capable boats. They’re really a smart person’s jet ski as they combine the fun, but the comfort of sitting in something instead of sitting on something, some actual storage space, lights for beyond daylight only boating and enough fuel capacity for an entire day on the water. I might rank a single engine one of those as one of the better starter boat options.

For buying a boat, paying money to a boat shop for a PPI is the best money you’ll ever spend. I really advocate against antique boats for first boats. You get into all kinds of structural concerns at the age, antique mechanical systems that are often vastly less reliable than modern counterparts (and that’s when they were new), often limited parts availability and you may find surprisingly few boat mechanics that really want to work on antique stuff. It can be a knowledge set that is so different than modern stuff.

My general recommendation for first boats is something like an 18ftish bow rider (ideally with outboard power) that is say not more than 10-20ish years old. That is to say things new enough to likely not be rotted out yet, be well depreciated yet modern enough to still have easy parts and service availability . To tow with a modern car might be hard. A like 5-10 year old jet ski might be the only modern starting point that tows behind a car.

Really, my recommendation is to rent a boat. Every thing you’ve heard about the best days being the day you buy one and the day you sell it is absolutely true, as the hole in the water you throw your money into.  If you’re only going to the like like 3-4 weekends a year, renting one of your choice will be the best money you can spend.  You really have to use a boat all the time for the cost of ownership to be worthwhile.  Renting for some different boats would also let you get an idea of what you really want to do on the water and how much you really will do it.  The idea of owing a boat is romantic.  The reality is expensive, and is a never ending repair and upkeep process.  

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 07/27/2020 at 01:53

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I never would have considered renting a boat as even a possibility. I’ll have to look into that.

Like you says the idea of owning a boat is romantic, just like that 84 Volkswagen that I’m selling... 

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/27/2020 at 02:02

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Paying like $10 00/weekend to rent a boat for a couple of weekends a year is a vastly better investment than owning one.  It’s also a lot more fun.  The purchase price of a boat is merely the down payment of the ownership experience.

Nom De Plume > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/27/2020 at 08:29

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Your argument is moot after invoking a Prius.