"CB" (jrcb) 07/19/2020 at 15:38 • Filed to: Ghostride the Blip

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Why is it that, every once in a while, my phone will say “for additional security, please enter your password” when I go to unlock it? Why is a several letter password that can be known or guessed considered additional security to my fingerprint, which I assume is a lot harder to fake? Do people know what they’re doing, or is pretending to be secure as good as being secure?

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > CB 07/19/2020 at 15:47

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Not sure if yours is the same way but my Android , with fingerprint scan, will require password (pattern) after a reboot. I'd imagine this is a safety feature say if you're asleep/unconscious they can just use your finger to unlock the phone. 

jminer > CB 07/19/2020 at 15:51

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To actually occasionally enforce 2 factor authentication - something you know + something you are .

Also has the advantage in the US and other countries with authoritarian police forces for a user to disable thumbprint or other bio which can be easily physically forced for something only you know and thus makes the info more secure.

CB > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 07/19/2020 at 15:53

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Mine is the same. Which I guess make sense. But if the majority of people never really turn off their phones, isn't that just always a concern, not solely on boot up?

John Norris (AngryDrifter) > CB 07/19/2020 at 16:03

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If you were a gl obal vil lai n’s henchman James Bond could cut off your hand with a laser and then have control of your oppo posts; at least for a while.

In Die Another Day , James Bond and Jinx get past a hand scanner by severing the arm of a recently killed henchman and pressing it against the scanner. 

Fortunately that can’t happen, as you have a secret code.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > jminer 07/19/2020 at 16:11

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This. Plenty an LEO around here have gotten access to folk’s phones via an involuntary finger press, whether forced from someone in bracelets that can’t effectively physically resist, is unconscious , or deceased. Not that warrants and some forensic hardware  wouldn’t frequently get access to the same info, but certainly not as quickly.

jminer > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 07/19/2020 at 16:17

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Yep - for the longest time I didn’t even enable a bio authentication option on my phone but eventually gave into the practicality of it.

Urambo Tauro > CB 07/19/2020 at 16:21

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Wrong answers only?

*tinfoil hat on* The fingerprint unlocks the device, but the password prompt is malware designed to collect passwords and other personal info. You only see it occasionally  because once your antivirus identifies it as a threat, it kills and blocks the malware until a clever new version finds its way onto your device.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > CB 07/19/2020 at 16:22

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my puter keeps asking for my phone number for security....

and my phone keeps telling me to at least set a pincode you stupid fucker

i say fuck you to both...i dont care about security...give me convenience or give me death

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MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > CB 07/19/2020 at 16:33

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With my partner’s old Samsung (forget the exact model) my fingerprint would unlock the phone if I mashed it a couple times repeatedly.

Also you can take my fingers from me but you can never take what dirty limerick I used for my password (I also regularly struggle not to use ‘guest’ and ‘password’ because I think it’s funny) 

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 07/19/2020 at 16:34

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This is an excellent point. Forensic processes likely need some kind of due process, but once a LEO uses your handcuffed hand to put in the password it’s your word against theirs. We all know how that can be problematic 

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > CB 07/19/2020 at 17:25

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For what it’s worth, both my personal and my work iPhones do this randomly a few times per week, even when not restarted. 

The Snowman > CB 07/19/2020 at 17:49

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Mine only does this after restarts to make sure it is in your possession. That way if the law had your phone they can't just point it at your face or make you touch it.