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"CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever" (carsoffortlangley) 07/17/2020 at 16:27 • Filed to: None

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How many quarts of fluid do you think a Torqueflite will take? I am changing the gasket and filter on the truck this weekend.

Also, any tips?  

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:30

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What ever comes out, put the same amount back in then measure level?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:33

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What ever comes out, put the same amount back in

You’re not familiar with “leaky” lol.

Discerning > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:35

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Find a service manual or a forum post that references a service manual and your specific TF model.

Otherwise you will soon find yourself with No running car. Thus, no car. And the circle of MOPAR continues.

What model transmission? What model and year vehicle? Which engine?

Some of the TF's also have specific recommendations on how to refill. Add most, let it drain, add more, etc.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:37

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So on my Buick, you could check the level with a dip stick. You were supposed to do that with the car running and ideally after driving IIRC. I also recall that if you are going to bother draining and refilling that it’s a good idea to pull the pan and replace the pickup filter too along with the pan gasket. 

onlytwowheels > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:40

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Need more info.

Are you draining the torque converter and trans cooler and lines ?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Discerning 07/17/2020 at 16:41

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It’s an A727 on a D100 Slant 6 (1986)

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > onlytwowheels 07/17/2020 at 16:42

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Just the pan (?).  I dunno, if I unbolt the pan, whatever comes out I guess.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:44

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It depends on how quickly you can fill it.

onlytwowheels > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:48

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5 quarts for just the transmission.

Discerning > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:52

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There's other factors like if you're just dropping the pan and changing the filter. You might want to call a parts counter and harass them. Most systems should have the recommended capacity. Even a NAPA POS system might have that on record.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Discerning 07/17/2020 at 16:54

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good advice!

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 16:57

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Does it have a dipstick? If so, start slow and work your way up until full. Running a transmission a little low on fluid won’t kill it, just keep if from moving. Over filling can have cata sto phic effects.

cmill189 - sans Volvo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 17:09

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When you remove the pan, crack all the bolts loose first to make sure they’ll actually come out. Then leave most of the front or rear in place while you remove the rest. Then slowly back out the rest and crack the gasket free if it’s stuck. This way the pan stays attached to the trans and it will hopefully pour out one corner or edge and limit your mess.

Pull them all out at once and you’ll be balancing a full pan of ATF over you head. If it has a drain plug you’ll be living the dream for this type of project. Also, maybe install a drain plug if it doesn’t have one.  

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > cmill189 - sans Volvo 07/17/2020 at 17:13

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hey! This is the kinda shit that I love!  Thanks for the tips!

Gone > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 17:30

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Where’s it leaking from? Pan gasket, tail shaft?

Assume no drain plug (would be aftermarket). Remove all the bolts but ones in one corner (the highest one). Loosen those a bit. Carefully pry the pan away from the opposing corner of the case (at all threes sides). Do not bend the pan! Pulling the pan down will cause trans fluid to dump out of the pan (you want this but messy)! Loosen the bolts some more, pull the pan down a bit again to get more fluid out. Remove remaining bolts and slowly lower pan (still fluid in it). Dump it on your face (oh wait that’s me - don’t do this). Dump in a receptacle. Wipe out the pan with a rag, if feeling sporty clean (and let dry!!) with brake cleaner. Wipe magnet down (if there) and put back. Unbolt filter. Adjust bands (only do this if you know what you’re doing!). Replace filter and torque to spec.

Sometimes bolts are long and short pay attention to what came out of where (longer on front pan rail sometimes IIRC?).

Clean pan and case rail of gasket material, wipe down with brake cleaner, let dry. 4-6 dabs of gasket maker in corners and carefully put gasket on pan. Use a couple bolts and lift pan into place, bolt at opposing corners. Add remaining bolts. Snug in cross pattern, then torque to spec in cross pattern.

Fill with 5qts ATF+4, be prepared to add 1-3 more qts. If draining torque converter (may be too new to have a plug), you’ll need another 2-3.

Get to temp, check fluid level in NEUTRAL. Add fluid as necessary. Neutral the pump is working, so the converter is full and not back flowing to the pan.

****EDIT**** Also do this on a level surface w/parking brake on. Watch out for the engine fan. Do not die checking the fluid level , please thx. ****EDIT****

Best gasket is the Mopar one. I usually use the Mopar filter too. Use ATF+4 unless you wanna get into a long discussion about using Dextron 3 (and only 3) or Type F. And benefits (???) of each of those.

cmill189 - sans Volvo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/17/2020 at 17:34

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!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!

Those are $6 on Amazon in the US. Installed one in the pan on my XC90 and it never leaked, just added some RTV to help the seal. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > onlytwowheels 07/17/2020 at 17:46

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Somebody told me that you could (carefully) drill a hole in the bottom of the torque converter, drain out the fluid that way, then plug the hole with a steel pop rivet. It strikes me as could be a good plan for old iron. What say you?

Old-Busted-Hotness > cmill189 - sans Volvo 07/17/2020 at 21:23

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Pick up a big plastic storage tub, one of those 10-gallon beasts. One that’s bigger than your pan. Slide it under the pan, and only then start loosening the bolts. When you crack the pan open, the fluid won’t have anywhere to go except into the tub.

cmill189 - sans Volvo > Old-Busted-Hotness 07/17/2020 at 22:37

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That's a good idea. I did something similar with a radiator I swapped out this morning.