Windows 10 from Vista?

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
06/29/2020 at 18:41 • Filed to: None

I know from experience that I can install (Genuine) Windows 7 and then smoothly upgrade to Windows 10. Can I do the same with Vista?

DISCUSSION (42)

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 18:51

Kinja'd!!!

Verdog ~ manual Bro, Bro - HellHawk Equipped > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 18:58

Just revert to ME and you are set!

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 19:01

You’d have to go Vista to a licensed version of 7, then upgrade that to 10.

The Vista key can’t be converted to a 10 license.

Jb boin > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
06/29/2020 at 19:04

Kinja'd!!!

jminer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 19:10

No - Vista doesn’t have a clean upgrade to Windows 10.

On the other hand though you can just install Windows 10 clean and activate with a Windows 7 key, no need to install 7 first.

Create your Windows 10 USB key from here - click download tool now and it’ll give you an option to create a bootable usb key.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

If you need a windows 7 key email me and I can help you out. I have a ton of them.

facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 19:28

Sadly no. For whatever reason, when MS did the free upgrade, they only allowed 7 and 8/8.1 to upgrade to Windows 10 for free.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 19:37

Kinja'd!!!

-- Signed, a Linux Convert

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Verdog ~ manual Bro, Bro - HellHawk Equipped
06/29/2020 at 19:37

I have a few hundred AOL discs, too. Armed with those? All set for the 2K Apocalypse.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > facw
06/29/2020 at 19:50

They didn’t include Vista because it was long out of the support period by the time 10 came around.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 19:50

Sadly, no. You need to upgrade from Win7 to Win10 or Win8 from Win10, there’s no direct path from Vista.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > jminer
06/29/2020 at 19:51

FYI this doesn’t always work. I’ve run into cases where I can use the upgrade path to get a Win7 key to activate Win10, but a fresh install of Win10 and then trying to use the Win7 key to activate it didn’t work.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
06/29/2020 at 19:51

I have a Win10 ‘gaming / editing’ desktop I use for my high-end stuff, but my ‘daily driver’ laptop and my Media Center PC both run Linux Mint MATE :)

jminer > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
06/29/2020 at 19:56

I’ve done it dozens of times and never had it fail. Just did it last week too .

You do always have to use the same version of windows 7 key as the version you installed for Windows 10. For example a windows 7 home key won’t activate a windows 10 pro install and so on .

facw > TheTurbochargedSquirrel
06/29/2020 at 19:58

Not true! Windows 10 launched in 2015, but Windows Vista was supported until 2017, though mainstream support did end before the Windows 10 release. Regardless, if you were giving away Windows 10 free to encourage adoption, why wouldn’t you want those Vista people to upgrade as well? Pretty much any machine that could run Vista can run 10.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 20:28

I bought a new computer during Vista, I wiped that shit off my computer within a day.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > jminer
06/29/2020 at 20:31

Yup, I know about using the same version key.

Very weird though, I’ve also done it dozens of times and it USUALLY works, yes, but I’ve had it NOT work several times with a fresh install of Win10 (the right version, Home, or Pro and whatnot and everything) until I, weirdly, reinstalled Win7 and then used a Win10 USB to upgrade from 7 to 10...

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
06/29/2020 at 20:35

Yeah, where I have to go ‘BACK TO THE DARK SIDE’ is generally around legacy stuff I need to work on cars — HP Tuners only runs Windows (and it’s finicky there, too) and the ELSAwin VAGcom stuff still has some utility on my older AUDIs.

Everyday? Nice to be off the Windows treadmill.

jminer > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
06/29/2020 at 20:39

That’s strange - I also never put in the key during install and only add it after windows 10 is up and patched.

Tripper > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 21:02

FYI you can install not genuine windows 7, upgrade to windows 10. Then you can take it one step further and wipe the machine then clean install genuine windows 10. You can upgrade from vista, but I think you have to boot to an install disk instead of using the super easy desktop tool.

Tripper > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
06/29/2020 at 21:05

You DD linux desktop? What flavor? I have tried to convert myself so many times as I love/live linux CLI. I thought for sure after I spent the time with Arch that it would be easy for me to love my new build. But, like a project car I was done with it once I finished getting everything setup the way I like. There is always a program or two I can’t do without

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > jminer
06/29/2020 at 21:09

Ah, I usually add it during th e install...maybe that has something to do with it somehow?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
06/29/2020 at 21:30

I wouldn't mind using Linux but I wouldn't know where to begin.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jminer
06/29/2020 at 21:39

I am going to take you up on that.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
06/29/2020 at 21:40

Ayo Hell?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > facw
06/29/2020 at 21:40

Vista was an abomination.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
06/29/2020 at 21:41

Same. Though there were some cases where drivers did not exist.

Nibby > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 21:54

i never upgrade from old OS to new OS ... backing up and fresh install is always better. always.

facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 22:10

Much better than XP in my mind. 7 was an improvement over Vista, but the difference between Vista and 7 was much, much smaller than between XP and Vista.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Tripper
06/29/2020 at 22:21

Yeah, I converted on most machines about 5 years ago. Mostly Ubuntu’s LTS releases. This machine’s on a 18.04 LTS (i7 with a 2 TB disk) and I have several media servers, audio clients and a video grabber running 14.04 LTS or 16.04.

The installation is trivially easy, assuming you can convince your BIOS to boot-from-USB. Build an ISO image on USB Flashdrive from one of repositories, boot it and it just walks you through the install . You can even “try before you commit” by running the image from the Thumbdrive.

Stuff that was ‘always a little iffy’ on Windows? PnP? Peripheral drivers? Power management on the laptops? Seems to just “work” on Ubuntu.

I like the UI as well as Windows. Never going back.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
06/29/2020 at 22:26

The installation is trivially easy, assuming you can convince your BIOS to boot-from-USB. Build an ISO image on USB Flashdrive from one of repositories, boot it and it just walks you through the install. You can even “try before you commit” by running the image from the Thumbdrive.

Chrome runs beautifully on these Ubuntu releases, as do Opera, Firefox, etc. It’s funny (stuff like importing and exporting PDFs, file conversions) how much work you need an “extra program” for in Windows that just is natively supported in Ubuntu. In some ways it reminds me of Mac OS— once you install it and get used to the UI? Stuff just works.

Tripper > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
06/29/2020 at 22:33

I’ve tried Ubuntu, mint, and and the arch build w a GUI (although I forget which one). I run a headless Ubuntu server for backup and Media. We’re full cloud azure ad for work, Does Linux play nice w office or visa versa now?

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Tripper
06/30/2020 at 00:27

It’s all OpenOffice for me.... which used to be hit-or-miss, but most of the weirdness seems to have gone out of file interchange since MS stopped changing formats every couple of years. I had my doubts about the move to XML (I was running an ISV involved in using those formats as integral to our business at the time ) but I’ve yet to find OpenOffice docs where they didn’t interchange completely seamlessly.

And, all the Ubuntu apps seem to support oodles of file formats. I use GIMP a lot on images and even the screen capture utility is a dream compared to Windows.

Sadly I do keep one creaky Windows machine for car utilities like HP Tuners. Ugh.

bison78 > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
06/30/2020 at 02:04

Personally, I prefer Mint with Mate, although I am typing this on a Gentoo install (also running Mate for the desktop, but with none of that s ystemd stuff).

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
06/30/2020 at 07:15

I don’t really mind using Windows at all....it’s what I’m most comfortable with, but I’ve grown to like Linux a lot and actually prefer it now, I think....if it wasn’t for most games being Windows-only (I use my Win10 desktop for edi ting AND gaming), I’d switch over to Linux!

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
06/30/2020 at 08:42

I like it more than I thought I would... I’m just amazed sometimes at how some “occasional” tasks invariably have some Command Line way to do, in one line commands, something that would have taken hours to figure out on Windows. Oddball file conversions are a great example of that. Or, using Wildcards for certain file operations.

Most of what I do day in and out is done through a browser anyway, and Chrome, Firefox and Opera are rock-solid stable on the recent Ubuntu LTS releases. Hell, there’s even a pretty good media player app built into the release.

The laptop I’m on this AM is by far the best laptop I’ve ever used (with the possible exception of a MacBook I loved)... and it’s running on a free OS. Go figure.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Tripper
06/30/2020 at 17:03

I use Linux Mint MATE, personally, which has it’s own schedule, but is mostly based on the Ubuntu releases.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
06/30/2020 at 17:05

I think LibreOffice is better than OpenOffice....it’s a fork of OpenOffice from way back, but I think sees updates far more often than OpenOffice does and has a few more features for compatibility with MS formats and other Office Suite formats.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
06/30/2020 at 17:45

You are correct and I mis-spoke. Ubuntu is bundled with LibreOffice... I’d forgotten that those code bases diverged so long ago, but LibreOffice is quite good. I don’t think twice about compatibility.

Thanks for that correction. Much appreciated.

PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > facw
06/30/2020 at 17:50

XP was the bomb but started feeling a little long in the tooth at 10+ years. Vista was hot garbage and you won’t change my mind. 8 sucked too!

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
06/30/2020 at 20:34

Oh, I wasn’t correcting you, haha! There is an OpenOffice version for Linux as well, isn’t there? I was just saying I prefer Libre out of the two! :D

But yes, perfectly fine compatibility, it’s never let me down. I do run MS Office ‘07 on my Win10 desktop as I’ve had that software for ages, but Libre does a fine job on my laptop! :)

Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
07/01/2020 at 13:32

No but you can run Windows 10 without a key. It just gives you that activation error on the desktop. It will still update so it’s not that much of a drawback.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition
07/01/2020 at 18:41

Interesting. I’ll keep that in mind.