"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
06/16/2020 at 16:16 • Filed to: wingspan, Wordlopnik
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"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn)
06/16/2020 at 16:16 • Filed to: wingspan, Wordlopnik | 2
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I am very much a word man, and I am fascinated by etymologies and subtle differences in meaning. As a writer of aviation history, I am also constantly seeking synonyms to keep from being repetitive, and finding different words about going places are high on the list. Which led me to wonder about the differences between travel , trip , journey , and voyage . The site !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! does a nice job of explaining the differences.
The noun travel is a general word, meaning to move from place to place, usually over long distances.
A journey means moving from one place to another, especially in a vehicle. It is a single piece of travel. A journey can also be a regular thing.
A trip describes the whole process of going somewhere and coming back. (It is more than one journey.)
Voyages are less common nowadays. A voyage is a very long trip, usually at sea or in space.
As for etymologies, the word !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! finds its roots in the word meaning work (travailen) , likely because at the time it was coined in the Middle Ages going anywhere far from home was an arduous undertaking.
!!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! comes from the mid-15th century, but it’s connection to going from one place to another is unclear. However, the connection to words having to do with stumbling may have something to do with going places on foot.
!!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! as it pertains to going places dates to 1300, and relates to the French word journée meaning the passage of a day. The sense of traveling then implies how long one might travel in a single day, or how far one can get from home in one day.
!!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , not surprisingly, also has roots in the French, in this case voiage (travel, journey, movement, course, errand, mission, crusade). Interestingly, the word traces farther back to the Latin viaticum , which essentially means food or provisions for a trip (or journey). It also shares roots with via , which we know means “coming from” or “how we got here,” and is a Latin word for road .
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So, now you know what I do in my spare time, when I’m not writing about airplanes or doing crossword puzzles.
Words dissemble
Words be quick
Words resemble walking sticks
Plant them they will grow
Watch them waver so
I’ll always be a word man
Better then a bird man
Curses, Invocations (exc.) by Jim Morrison
Just Jeepin'
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 16:29 |
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I didn’t stumble upon the word viaduct until fairly recently ; we in Indiana have the second longest railroad bridge in the world, out in the middle of nowhere.
I’m really surprised to discover I haven’t written a post about it .
TheRealBicycleBuck
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 16:30 |
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Words are interesting creatures. They have a form. We can usually understand them by looking at their form and from whence it came. Unfortunately, people are nasty creatures, always looking to subvert the form, function, and meaning of words. That hinders understanding.
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ttyymmnn
> Just Jeepin'
06/16/2020 at 16:37 |
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From the Latin words via meaning road and ductus mean to lead .
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ttyymmnn
> TheRealBicycleBuck
06/16/2020 at 16:37 |
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And Twitter will be the death of discourse. Or already is.
For Sweden
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 16:40 |
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Travel
Trip
Journey
Voyage
Jb boin
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 16:47 |
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Meanwhile in French the term voyage is the most used to translate : a travel, a journey, a voyage... or a trip :)
There is also
périple
which is a long voyage with multiple steps ; it comes from the Greek
péri
(around) and
plous
(navigation).
There is also pérégrination which is mostly used in the plural and seems to be also existing in English.
The popular
quote “
Faire une virée [
en voiture]
” (or by another mean) is a joy ride (in its literal form :
to
drive or ride just for the pleasure of it)
; the verb
virer
prim
ary mean is
translated as
transfer
while the translation
of
“
il est viré
”
is
“
he is fired
”
.
The etymology
for
virer
from Wikitionary
:
From Vulgar Latin *vir , probably from Latin vibr (in which case it is a doublet of vibrer ) or possibly from an alteration of gr . Compare Italian virare , Spanish virar . Or, possibly from Gaulish *viru (“to deviate, veer off”), itself derived from viros (“round, crooked”).
And an excursion , like in English is a voyage for the pleasure of for study i ng.
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Jb boin
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 16:50 |
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At least, now they are monologuing.
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user314
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 16:52 |
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Travelling Without Moving:
Travelling without moving:
But don’t forget:
Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 16:57 |
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O ne of my friends was in a cover band called “Departure, a Tribute to Journey”.
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ttyymmnn
> user314
06/16/2020 at 17:02 |
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And, if you’re in the middle of nowhere, you’re half way to somewhere.
wafflesnfalafel
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 17:24 |
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I voyaged to work but tripped and fell...
One other OPPO related word whose origin I thought was kind of interesting - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hoon
Jim Spanfeller
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 17:25 |
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Whatcha tryin’ to say about bird men? Rude!
Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 19:33 |
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One of my favorites is the relation between records and albums and how the terms, although now synonymous, have different and distinct meanings. I think that TechMoan, one of my favorite channels on YouTube, covered it well.
I think this is the one
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ttyymmnn
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/16/2020 at 20:07 |
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I still call a CD a record.
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Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 20:17 |
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Of course - it’s a recording
Funny thing I heard at Walmart the other day - the staff was talking about how they got rid of the CD section and replaced it with vinyl...
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ttyymmnn
> Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
06/16/2020 at 20:26 |
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Ridiculously expensive vinyl. My son wanted to buy his girlfriend an album and I was shocked by the cost.
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Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing.
> ttyymmnn
06/16/2020 at 20:29 |
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I didn’t even look at the prices. If I buy vinyl I usually go to places like Half Price Books and buy it used. I’ve purchased two records in the last 30 years...