Yes, sports cars are not selling that well

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 06/15/2020 at 10:17 • Filed to: None

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E90M3 > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/15/2020 at 10:27

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Does that 4 series number include the number of “Grand Coupes?” 

Tripper > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/15/2020 at 10:30

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*smiles sweetly at the E36/46, wishes the E92 was an M3, lols at the the two buicks

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Tripper 06/15/2020 at 10:41

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Yup

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/15/2020 at 10:51

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The s ales volume is inversely proportional to the mass of the car.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 06/15/2020 at 11:25

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Coincidence!

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > E90M3 06/15/2020 at 11:25

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No.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/15/2020 at 11:33

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By these numbers the e92 actually sold better than the e36. Since it produced for a shorter time, only 6 years.

But then the f32  tanked. Weird. I’m going to blame it on changing the name to 4 series 

CompactLuxuryFan > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/15/2020 at 11:43

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Adding another 5 inches (!!!) of length, making this impractical 2 door longer than even the current not-that-short X3 will definitely help. 

For Sweden > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 06/15/2020 at 11:51

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Total mass sold stays consistent

Jb boin > CompactLuxuryFan 06/15/2020 at 13:19

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The 3 series is 4.709m long (both in sedan and touring form) while the new 4 series coupé is... 4.756m long...

The 320i touring and 420i coupé have the same 0-100kph (7.5s) and the weight is 1645kg vs 1600kg, the 330i sedan (there is no 320i sedan on the BMW France website but its available on the configurator...) is even lighter than the 420i at 1545kg.

The 320i sedan “Lounge” starts at 41299.99 €, the 320i touring starts at 43350€ (including taxes) while the 420i “Serie 4” starts at 48000€.

For a direct comparison (as i don’t want to check what is on the “ Lounge” vs “Serie 4” packages) :  T he 420i in “M Sport” is still 3000€ more than the 320i sedan in “M Sport” and 1300€ more than the 320i touring “M Sport”.

I don’t see why i would pay more to have less doors and practicality and almost the same car otherwise ; not to mention that the 3 series looks better than the 4 series (IMO).

E90M3 > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/15/2020 at 13:24

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It’s possible the numbers are about the same if you include those; I feel like I see a lot more GC 4 Series then regular coupe 4 series. 

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/15/2020 at 13:40

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They switch the name from 3 to 4 and the sales drop off lol. It also doesn’t help that for the first time the sedan looked better than the coupe. The F30 was very handsome while the F32 was somewhat  bland.

Jim Spanfeller > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/15/2020 at 15:40

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wbizarre - OEM fetishist > For Sweden 06/15/2020 at 18:03

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Did we just discover the Law of Conservation of Sportscar Mass?

duurtlang > Jb boin 06/16/2020 at 09:13

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It would make sense of the coupe has some clear benefits. For example, my Peugeot 406 coupe looks very different (better) than its sedan and wagon brethren. With recent BMWs though, meh.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 06/16/2020 at 14:58

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silky smooth inline 6 > course turbo 4

best in class steering feel > crappy EPS

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15368023/a-tale-of-two-bmw-3-series-a-chassis-rig-reveals-why-the-e90-and-f30-feel-so-different/

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/16/2020 at 16:48

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That could have a lot to do with it. I do love my smooth inline 6 and firm steering 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 06/16/2020 at 16:53

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I bet you do! They really lost the plot after the E9x .

I love my four liter V8 that revs past 8000. =)

My tune actually removes some assist from the steering, and I can remove even more with a press of a button.