MAZDA3 HB PP TURBO

"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction) 06/03/2020 at 13:07 • Filed to: None

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As much as I love hatchbacks (and love my ‘05 Mazda 3s hatch), I’ve come to accept the fact that the sedan of this generation looks better.

See also: visibility matters.

Kind of r eminds me of an old TSX.

way2blu does a rev update > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 13:21

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Having daily-driven my Camaro for almost a year now, I’d like to share a number about visibility.

Zero. As in, zero collisions, and zero visibility-related near-misses. The high beltline has actually made me better at autocross too because it hides nearby cones. You have to look up and ahead, and can’t target-fixate on cones that are too close.

The Mazda3 Turbo is on my shortlist for future cars to look at. Visibility will be fine.

Maxima Speed > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 13:22

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You are wrong, so sit there in your wrongness  and be wrong..... wrong doer!!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Maxima Speed 06/03/2020 at 13:26

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Haha. I drive by a hatch in Soul Red regularly. I’m not saying it’s ugly, and it certainly is bold...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > way2blu does a rev update 06/03/2020 at 13:28

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Yeah, it’s probably okay (especially with blind-spot monitoring standard).

And a back-up camera. =)

Textured Soy Protein > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 13:28

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I like the looks of the hatch but I’m not sure about the visibility. 

Textured Soy Protein > way2blu does a rev update 06/03/2020 at 13:29

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As someone who harps on visibility, to me it’s not just about not crashing, I like an open airy-feeling experience while driving a car. Being ensconced in a cocoon with small windows and lots of opaque surfaces is not a comfortable situation for me. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Textured Soy Protein 06/03/2020 at 13:31

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Standard blind-spot monitoring and back-camera helps.

MrSnrub > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 13:31

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OMG YES. I just saw this!!! omg omg omg

But the sedan should get it too yeah

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MrSnrub 06/03/2020 at 13:32

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Dude, you’d better call your local dealer and get on the list with that reaction!

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 13:32

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With the big PP Turbo, I’d argue the Mazda 3 should be worth considering if one’s thinking of a Merc A class or Audi A3 or BMW 2 series. That interior is luxury-car level good.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/03/2020 at 13:36

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They’re definitely knocking at the door with premium leather and materials and extra tech in the highest trims.

MrSnrub > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 13:43

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Haha, I’m mainly relieved I have something to replace my GTI with in a few years. I was low-key panicking about the possibilities because I don’t care for the Mk8 Golf, and don’t really want something that isn’t a (hot) hatch which eliminates just about everything else (Veloster/Elantra are too low-rent inside) . Plus something that has a decent reliability record so I don’t have to worry about running it for 150k miles would be nice . This is the clear solution to those dile mmas

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MrSnrub 06/03/2020 at 13:49

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You do know about the GR Corolla, right?

That one’s on my watch list!

MrSnrub > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 13:55

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That’s true, but Toyotas have terrible seating positions for me and the new Corolla is no different unfortunately. Plus the 3 has that pretty exterior and stunning interior

Textured Soy Protein > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 13:56

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Those help not run into things but they don’t get any more light into the cabin. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MrSnrub 06/03/2020 at 14:01

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Haven’t driven one, but hopefully that’s not an issue for me. Because manual.

We were a 2 Mazda family once. I’ll surely own another some day.

feather-throttle-not-hair > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 14:06

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I still think the hatch looks better. However, as you correctly pointed out “visibility matters.”

Pretty as it is, I would never buy a hatch for that reason.

WilliamsSW > Textured Soy Protein 06/03/2020 at 14:06

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^^^^ so much this. 

feather-throttle-not-hair > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 14:09

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Yeah I think the GR ‘rolla is going to be MT only since it looks like they’re using the GR yaris’ drivetrain which appears to only have a stick.

So, nice car available with either transmission, just not the SAME nice car.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Textured Soy Protein 06/03/2020 at 14:09

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Sure you could probably parallel park fine in a car where you know what you can't see but the mental security of seeing something is worth quite a lot.

feather-throttle-not-hair > Textured Soy Protein 06/03/2020 at 14:13

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Yeah I had a 350z for a long time and never crashed it either due to the blind spots...

Just kidding, I ran into a dudes pristine ZHP 330i when I was trying to back out of a steep , crowded, driveway once at night, and managed to merge into a lady at 4am when boarding a ferry boat. Both accidents were at like 3 mph but both were most definitely caused by the blind spot (along with some sleepiness and unfamiliarity with the car)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > feather-throttle-not-hair 06/03/2020 at 14:15

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Options are good! Hope they sell a lot of both.

MrSnrub > feather-throttle-not-hair 06/03/2020 at 14:21

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Yeah, the GR is going full on hot-hatch, so I’d expect a manual, while Mazda is going for more of a cut-price A3 approach

Wacko > Textured Soy Protein 06/03/2020 at 14:36

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Have you tried a forester

I feel like I’m in an aquarium with all that glass in my 2017

wafflesnfalafel > MrSnrub 06/03/2020 at 14:39

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i’ve noticed that seating position thing too... even in larger Toyotas.  But my mother loves it because she is 5'5"...

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 16:32

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I’m curious to see what the price will be. With Mazda’s push upmarket, I hope they don’t price themselves out of the GTI/R/N/Type R market.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI 06/03/2020 at 16:38

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You can only get the CX-5 with that engine in GT trim, and that starts at $35k. I assume they’ll follow this pricing structure, and maybe it will start a few grand less than that. So, less than Type R, but more than a GTI/ WRX.

Amoore100 > Wacko 06/03/2020 at 17:13

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Foresters are awesome in that regard. Anyone who says people are unjustified in buying them and that they’re no better  than a RAV4 is mistaken.

Wacko > Amoore100 06/03/2020 at 17:15

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It’s similar to my 2010  sx4 I had from 2010 to 2015.  Just bigger.

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 18:00

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They’d have to bump up from the 250ish HP the CX puts out, that’s for sure.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI 06/03/2020 at 18:10

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It’s a torque-ier engine.

TylerJ > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 06/03/2020 at 20:01

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But torque steer. Ew.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 23:15

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The most important thing to remember is that the Mazda 3 is one of the cheapest cars that can be spec’d with a red interior and red exterior at the same time.

Now with a turbo to go with AWD? It’s my next car.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/03/2020 at 23:23

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Red over red? 

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Textured Soy Protein 06/03/2020 at 23:26

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I test drove the hatch. The back seats are very cavern-like but quite comfortable. The visibility is actually pretty good for how it looks on the outside, better than a Veloster. I drive a 19 Impreza so I thought I’d hate the new 3 but I was pleasantly surprised.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/03/2020 at 23:32

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You know it. I’d get every one of my cars in that combo if I could.

Textured Soy Protein > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/04/2020 at 00:25

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“Better than a Veloster” is...faint praise. 

nerd_racing > TylerJ 06/04/2020 at 08:40

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Turbo is an AWD only option, torque steer isn’t an issue like the FWD Speed3, unfortunately. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/04/2020 at 09:14

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Just looked at the Mazda 3's interior - that’s a nice, deep red (and not too much - just right). And their Soul Red is awesome.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > Textured Soy Protein 06/04/2020 at 09:39

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It was probably just perception on my part. Expecting the Veloster to be more airy than it was and expecting the 3 to be darker inside than it was. Since for you, it’s less about blind spots and more about an airy cabin you probably won’t care for it

TylerJ > nerd_racing 06/04/2020 at 17:07

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Wait, do front biased AWD systems not have torque steer?

nerd_racing > TylerJ 06/05/2020 at 06:58

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From my experience with driving a turbo CX5 and CX9, they did a pretty good job of tuning it out.  Even the second gen speed3 was much reduced from the first gen.