"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
06/02/2020 at 16:15 • Filed to: None
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"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti)
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I found this beautiful photo blog while reading about the killing of Dave McAtee. He was murdered while BBQing for his neighborhood in West Louisville. Either the National Guard or local police murdered him. The cops turned their body cams off and left his body in the street for twelve hours, so no one knows who shot him. Witnesses say he was shielding his niece after the soldiers and cops starting shooting into the crowd that was BBQing.
Walter and Marshae Smith had interviewed Mr. McAtee for their blog a few months back. He’d been running a BBQ stand on a busy street corner for a while, saving up to open up his own restaurant. Their blog documents the life stories of people in the neighborhoods of West Louisville. Really beautiful stuff. I’m going to start reading the stories to my kids. Check out the site and buy a shirt if you have some coin. It’s good to support positive stuff like this.
I’m not affiliated in any way with them, their blog just really hit a nerve with me this morning. Also, there’s motorcycles. The guy in the pic is trying to get people in his neighborhood interested in dirtbikes, and wants to get a track built so kids can ride in the neighborhood.
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> DipodomysDeserti
06/02/2020 at 16:42 |
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“McAtee’s mother and his nephew told The Courier Journal that he was known to feed police as well. The two said he would give law enforcement officers free meals”
Oh the Irony.
Also, this article goes into the details the actual incident-
Speed
> DipodomysDeserti
06/02/2020 at 16:46 |
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I appreciate you posting this. I caught myself reading one after another. I’m going to keep this link for the future.
jminer
> DipodomysDeserti
06/02/2020 at 17:31 |
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The turning off of cameras is absolute horseshit! I build and manage enterprise security systems for a quasi-governmental organization so a bit of an expert on this.
C ameras are never allowed to not record period
facw
> jminer
06/02/2020 at 17:38 |
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Yep. It was of course against policy, and the police chief has been fired for that institutional failure (much easier to follow the chief than the officers).
The rationale for letting officers turn off cameras is generally that you don’t need to be recording them using the restroom, etc. and of course that filming their entire day, even if they aren’t interacting with the public is a waste of storage, but it’s pretty clear they can’t be trusted to do it themselves (honestly I think this sort of manual control would be untenable even without malicious cops) so a more invasive policy is required.
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DipodomysDeserti
> facw
06/02/2020 at 18:09 |
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There’s also some privacy concerns for victims as well.
RallyWrench
> DipodomysDeserti
06/02/2020 at 18:12 |
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Really cool, thanks. Found them on instagram too.
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> facw
06/02/2020 at 18:18 |
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“Two LMPD officers involved in the shooting either had failed to activate or were not wearing body cameras during the incident, Mayor Greg Fischer told the public Monday night."
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jminer
> facw
06/02/2020 at 18:23 |
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Storage is cheap, for $15k I can buy enterprise storage from HP that can record 200 HD resolution cameras for over 2,000 hours each.
There is an argument to be made for privacy but I don't buy it with the lack of trust right now.
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facw
> DipodomysDeserti
06/02/2020 at 18:25 |
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Yep, though ultimately I don’t think you can miss interactions due to those privacy concerns, if anything those moments are victims are most vulnerable to police abuse, and so recording is more important then, so instead you have to ensure you have the legal and technical framework to keep those videos private except when needed for law enforcement purposes, or when the victim wants them released.
PyramidHat
> facw
06/02/2020 at 18:27 |
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I figure a bathroom button would suffice - they press it and it’s off for 10 minutes, avoiding filming themselves going to the bathroom. Then it automatically turns on. If they manage to kill someone within that 10 minutes, they have some ‘splaining to do as to why this happened in the bathroom.
dogisbadob
> DipodomysDeserti
06/02/2020 at 18:34 |
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Charge everyone involved until someone speaks up. Every cop who turned them off is an accessory to murder, and it was premeditated since they turned the cameras off.
Including dishonorable discharge for all national
guard troops stationed there
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facw
> jminer
06/02/2020 at 18:48 |
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Storage has gotten cheaper, so it’s less of a concern. That HP number sounds a bit cheap to me. I figure about 2 GB an hour for 1080p video using a reasonably aggressive modern compression which means 800TB of data, which means you are talking about needing 50 16TB drives which would cost you around $2 0k at retail, even more you consider the actual servers/enclosures, and of course that’s before you talk about redundancy, which you definitely want. Granted you could record at a lower bitrate, but for the purposes of this application I’d think you’d want high quality recordings (depending on what recording you are using you could also be talking about much more, my dashcam records 15Mb/s 1 080p@30fps in H.264, so that ends up being like 6.7GB/hour) .
Regardless though, the cost of the raw storage is probably irrelevant because most PDs don’t have the technical expertise to deal with setting up and maintaining such a system, so many have super pricey storage contracts with companies like Taser (now Axon) to maintain their storage, and you know they are paying a big premium for that.
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jminer
> facw
06/02/2020 at 20:11 |
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Compression on modern camera devices chops about 60% off the top of calculated values and we buy HP D3600 disk arrays loaded with 24 16 TB drives and they cost us right about $15k. We definitely have some economies of scale as we have ~250 of them recording data from ~18k cameras.
You’re very right though about the LE organizations. Our group has done some consulting with them and they’re all very bad. It’s actually why my group exists, everything used to be farmed out to integrators and it was expensive and terrible so they hired a bunch of IT engineers (like me) to build and manage the systems. We are pretty unique in the government space though.