Can you drive the world's cheapest car in Ontario?

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05/29/2020 at 17:29 • Filed to: None

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I was reading Torch’s recent article:

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And was wondering... could I buy this and drive this as a low speed neighborhood vehicle on public roads in Ontario?

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The main issue I see so far is the lack of seatbelts... unless they’re included in the boxes and is part of the required assembly . But I didn’t see any belt buckles or anywhere to mount seat belts.


DISCUSSION (17)


Kinja'd!!! CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
05/29/2020 at 17:55

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What’s that ICBC? It’s not a wheel chair and being lazy isn’t a disability?

You’ll have to take that up with my lawyer.

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Kinja'd!!! ranwhenparked > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
05/29/2020 at 17:55

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To be fair, this is every bit  as much a car as a Polaris Ranger is. 


Kinja'd!!! facw > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
05/29/2020 at 17:55

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I was a bit surprised that it lacks belts. Seems like some cheap (and maybe not really functional belts would have been easy to toss in).

I mean check how well the shoulder belt works on this French VSP:


Kinja'd!!! If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
05/29/2020 at 18:02

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I still want an Alibaba motorcycle but I’m not insane or dedicated enough to try and go through with it.

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Kinja'd!!! Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > facw
05/29/2020 at 18:05

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Well it’s a given vehicles in this category will be deathtraps compared to anything else except bicycles, motorcycles, etc.


Kinja'd!!! SiennaMan > facw
05/29/2020 at 18:13

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It worked really well, did the dummy fly through the windshield?  No...  (I know, the performance was pretty poor..  although,  the whole VSP program is questionable from a safety standpoint..)


Kinja'd!!! Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
05/29/2020 at 18:13

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But the rules look very similar to Ontario ... and they’re probably similarly ignored when it comes to pocket bikes, motorized skateboards and ‘hover boards’


Kinja'd!!! CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
05/29/2020 at 18:16

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Oh yeah, nobody gives a shit here.  It’s pandemonium


Kinja'd!!! Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
05/29/2020 at 18:22

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I’m wondering what ICBC would do. Could you register it and comply as a Slow Moving Vehicle in Division 7B if you got seatbelts, flashing lights, slow moving sign etc? Usually it’s reserved for things like tractors, equipment and heavy transport , not a personal vehicle ...

http://www.bclaws.ca/civix/document/id/complete/statreg/26_58_04#division_d2e8839

At the same time, no way I’d ever drive in a 4 wheeler that tops out at 35kph on the road around Vancouver. Even around the block I know someone would come up behind and get royally pissed, because I know I would .


Kinja'd!!! CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com
05/29/2020 at 18:30

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I thought that, or maybe as a “Ubuilt” car? The thing about the system we have here is that everything is done through the brokers and (speaking as an employee of one) they know fuck all.

You could trick some autoplan drone into signing off on pretty much anything.


Kinja'd!!! Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
05/29/2020 at 18:58

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Had to install the side view mirrors? Congratulations it’s now a qualified Ubilt car! Haha

Although I will say if registration doesn’t catch it the police seem kind of keen on ramping up  VI.


Kinja'd!!! punkgoose17 > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
05/29/2020 at 19:01

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This is entertaining. I will have to go on Jalopnik for updates. 


Kinja'd!!! CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com
05/29/2020 at 19:02

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Exactly what I was thinking. That’s 100% what happened to make this happen:

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Kinja'd!!! Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
05/29/2020 at 19:09

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I remember we had this thing running around Delta for a few months last year . I think the police banished it to VI  though when they came across it.

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Kinja'd!!! MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > SiennaMan
05/29/2020 at 20:46

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Yeah the dummy  in the car, what more do you people want? The belt to do your taxes? 


Kinja'd!!! zipfuel > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
05/29/2020 at 21:17

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Can’t just be any old Chinese manufacturer either:

“Only LSVs manufactured by a company registered with Transport Canada and that have a compliance label are eligible for the pilot”

I presume this means you need a national safety mark which has to be applied for by the “manufacturer” the good news is that it’s a self certification process with minimal testing for the LSV. If you bought already Canadian certified lights and seat belt assemblies then you’d duck the lab tests. I don’t know if the importer would be eligible to do the compliance paperwork b ut you could enquire.

https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/road/safety-standards-vehicles-tires-child-car-seats/safety-standards-vehicles/faq-vehicle-manufacturers-national-safety-mark.html

I have a daydream electric motorbike design I’d like to design / build so have been looking up what standards need to be met lately. Producing a compliance binder might not be that hard but I’m worried the processing fees could be big league.

I get the feeling this pilot was introduced for the benefit of indigenous manufacturers like Zenn (RIP) but g iven the popularity of ebikes someone has to be bringing a few of these in now.


Kinja'd!!! zipfuel > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
05/29/2020 at 21:27

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Ontario started a scooter pilot in January 2020 so they’re legal. I saw a pack/gaggle/group of enthusiasts go through my my neighborhood recently on a motley assortment of electric skateboards, single electric wheels, scooters etc. The pilot is very specific but I’m betting a lot of other 500w rando devices are using it as cover to claim a grey area.

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/vehicles/electric/electric-scooters.shtml