Well this is interesting

"MrSnrub" (sv100) 05/26/2020 at 14:31 • Filed to: None

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The Corolla wagon could be on the way to the US. Of course it would probably get some cladding and a suspension lift , but still, would be a pretty interesting option in hybrid form.

MonkeePuzzle > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 14:35

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eww, cladding and lift. 

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 14:39

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Probably hybrid Cvt only

CB > MonkeePuzzle 05/26/2020 at 14:43

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How dare you

and 100 more > MonkeePuzzle 05/26/2020 at 14:46

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Glad to see the US marketing dev team chiming in, good morning!

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 14:46

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That would be great, even with a lifestyle lift.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 14:47

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Also don’t expect it to be particularly useful. What’s the cargo capacity on these? I’d be surprised if it can hold more than an old Matrix. My brother rented one in Japan recently and was very underwhelmed. Yeah it looks pretty cool and wagon is better than no wagon, but current styling trends don’t help these things when it comes to practicality.

Of course Toyota isn’t the only offender here - same applies for Volvo and BMW 3 series wagons of late. 

BeaterGT > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 05/26/2020 at 14:52

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avalonian > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 14:56

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This would make a great commuter. I'm intrigued. 

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 15:01

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AWD hybrid? Depends on what they do with it I guess. 

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 15:02

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Considering I see about sixteen thousand Subaru  Crosstreks on the road daily, this is probably not a bad idea. Needs the cladding and fake AWD, though. 

fintail > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 15:06

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So i t’ll end up being a 4 door C- HR.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 05/26/2020 at 15:08

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Not just wagons The rake in modern suvs kill the potential practicality of the large cargo area. Volume is useless unless the cargo is parallelogram shaped

Svend > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 05/26/2020 at 15:09

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Luggage capacity is 581 litres,

compared to that of say a BMW 2 Series Touring which has 500 litres.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 05/26/2020 at 15:11

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Oh yeah, I rented the Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag SUV when I went home for a wedding and we could barely fit our luggage in the back! It was like a big compact car. 

Svend > MonkeePuzzle 05/26/2020 at 15:12

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You want ‘clad and lift’?

dogisbadob > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 15:17

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ooo yay a big sunroof :o)

Svend > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 05/26/2020 at 15:19

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jimz > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 15:19

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toyota is big enough where they can afford to punt and see what happens.  If they’re federalizing the EU wagon then it won’t be that expensive, and if it flops they can absorb it. 

punkgoose17 > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 15:23

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It should sell well enough in Quebec, the NE and NW United States. If they are happy with only doing well in those markets it makes sense.

Svend > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 05/26/2020 at 15:23

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It does come in ‘Trek’ variant.

Regular and ‘Trek’. 

MonkeePuzzle > Svend 05/26/2020 at 15:27

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no. thats ruined a clean wagon. 

wafflesnfalafel > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 15:40

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It would make a nice, new Matrix.  Would be neat if they do a hotter version with that little turbo 3cyl...

Grindintosecond > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 15:42

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Gimme. 

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Svend 05/26/2020 at 15:53

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with the seats down, there is a load of room. my gripe  is that with the shallow rake of the rear window useful space is lost. 

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 05/26/2020 at 15:57

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I ws trying to help get 4 adults and 2 kids to/from the airport and it was a mess. you either lay the suitcases  down on their side and forego the vertical space or put 2 vertical and then add small filler stuff between that and the trunk door. 

Chinny Raccoon > Svend 05/26/2020 at 16:02

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Not bad. It could do with some smaller wheels on it. 

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 05/26/2020 at 16:20

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The Jaaaaaaaaaag had a cargo area cover that gave you less vertical space too, I guess it was designed for an old couple to go on weekend trip. The sloped back on these SUVs just eliminates any space. The second gen CRV I had was very square in back and I actually got a queen mattress in it taco’ d.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Svend 05/26/2020 at 16:29

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Is the Trek even lifted compared to the standard wagon? They look roughly the same height in those 2 photos.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 16:31

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This would make a suitable successor for the Alltracks that are everywhere here in VT. I think the current generation of Outback has gotten too big for VT tastes and everyone was buying the VW until they were discontinued.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Svend 05/26/2020 at 16:39

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That’s no HORRIBLE. But it’s not the best.

Svend > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 05/26/2020 at 16:46

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I’ve not found that to be the case, mine is at 45 degrees but most I know have a deep rear bumper so the roof line doesn’t finish that far back from where the boot area starts.

With the depth of the rear bumper, then the inside lip. 

Svend > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 05/26/2020 at 16:49

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If there’s any lift it’ll be about an inch.

I might check Parker's, when I get home. The Parker's guide gives all the dimensions of cars on sale here in the U.K. 

sony1492 > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 05/26/2020 at 16:51

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Tbh a big compact is what the corolla is supposed to be

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > MrSnrub 05/26/2020 at 17:19

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As long as it comes in hybrid, I’m down. At that point its a prius with a better look and maybe even more cargo capacity

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Svend 05/26/2020 at 18:37

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what has bugged me with suvs I’ve rented or driven is the cargo area is flush with the rear lip, so that items don’t have to be lifted out, just slid out. The Skoda doesn’t have that curse. Its even more insulting when they remove the spare tire, and replace with a can of fixaflat, they should have even more room. 

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > fintail 05/26/2020 at 18:59

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C-H R actually has 4-doors!

Svend > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 05/26/2020 at 19:26

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Ye’, with estates, the boot lid is about two or three inches deep, where the glass up top is only a few millimetres deep so it offsets much of what is taken with the rake of the window.

Most small SUVs give up any notion of bootspace for seating for occupants. Seven seaters are the worst, in five seat configuration, you've a decent size boot area, with the two jumpseats used, yes you can carry seven persons, but you can't take much luggage with you. 

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Svend 05/26/2020 at 21:45

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7 seaters are a joke. you’ve accepted youll be in a boat, ust buy the damn minivan. the floor drops at least6" and you’ll have space with or without people. 

fintail > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 05/26/2020 at 22:01

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Oof, I forgot about the weird handles.  And I’m somehow proud of that!