Since everyone's posting their bike rides...

"VincentMalamute-Kim" (VincentMalamute-Kim) 05/25/2020 at 12:39 • Filed to: None

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Here’s mine from last week . uh, no. hahahahaha!!! Not even remotely. I’m just as cute but my name isn’t Ruth Winder.

Sovande > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/25/2020 at 12:56

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I find it less exhausting to just look at the bike.

benjrblant > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/25/2020 at 13:33

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I don’t think I’ve biked t hat route before. I usually go with fourmile or sunshine canyons.

Nom De Plume > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/25/2020 at 13:58

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Expected the Katie Hall Everesting ride.  Same distance and elevation, 2 hours quicker.

InFierority Complex > benjrblant 05/25/2020 at 14:56

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Probably a lot less car traffic to contend with on those roads as well.

nafsucof > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/26/2020 at 07:49

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wait wait she climbed 29000 ft? i mtn bike about 7-12 miles a day and average about 12-1700 ft climbing averaging around 4.9-5.3 mph but that’s in 2 hrs...and that is brutal.  she’s climbing around 2500 an hour...at elevation.  wow

VincentMalamute-Kim > benjrblant 05/26/2020 at 20:35

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I was thinking about a loop incorporating Gold Hill.  Looks like gravel roads on satellite view?  Is it pretty smooth, packed down stuff good enough for a road bike?

VincentMalamute-Kim > nafsucof 05/26/2020 at 20:38

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I posted her Strava because I liked the sawtooth waveform generated. And that it’s so far out of the realm of possibility for me.

Mtn biking is so different; feels like doing interval training to me. More brutal than road biking.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Nom De Plume 05/26/2020 at 20:52

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A Katie Hall Everesting article led me to Ruth Winder’s ride. Ruth’s ride got more of my attention since I just did a 4500' loop from Lyons to Ward almost on the same day Ruth was doing her thing just a few canyons south of me.

As far as setting records, Ruth wasn’t trying.  She was starting each climb with 15% less O2 than Katie. Ruth was ending at 7500 ft altitude vs Katie’s 1300 ft so Ruth had around 20 % less O2 at the end of each climb.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Sovande 05/26/2020 at 20:53

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That’s a pretty bike.  You got some interesting crap in your bookshelves too.

VincentMalamute-Kim > benjrblant 05/26/2020 at 20:59

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I saw this route on Ridewithgps but my buddy has narrow road tires.

Sovande > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/26/2020 at 21:00

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Thanks! There is a grand total of 6 electric horsepower on those shelves. Not to mention that 70cc Honda motor.

This is shelf-adjacent...

VincentMalamute-Kim > Sovande 05/26/2020 at 21:22

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Someone is really creative! I saw some red/black electronic devices (shelf just above the MARIN on the bike’s downtube ).  I can’t make out enough detail to ID anything though.

Sovande > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/26/2020 at 21:36

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Milwaukee compressor/tire inflator thingy . And a battery.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Sovande 05/26/2020 at 21:47

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So where’s the “ grand total of 6 electric horsepower on those shelves”??

Sovande > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/26/2020 at 22:00

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Three 2 hp motors. I needed one for a compressor. I ended up with three. 

VincentMalamute-Kim > Sovande 05/26/2020 at 22:04

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Left two are hard to find - it’d be a good puzzle.  Right motor wasn’t in the photo - cheater!

Sovande > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/26/2020 at 22:09

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I failed you.

benjrblant > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/27/2020 at 00:20

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I’ve biked that before. Switzerland trail is do-able on a gravel bike but you’ll want gravel tires for sure- parts of it are not maintained . You could also head out via lickskillet road and take lefthand canyon back to old stage rd if you’d rather keep it maintained gravel and pavent.

Nom De Plume > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/27/2020 at 10:43

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That’s fine, local pro is more important to your own riding. Wasn’t sure you were aware.

In that same vein. You also probably know conditions in which t he Men’s record recently fell twice during one week. The second time was at elevation. The first, in LA near sea level.

World hour record similarly has seen a number of attempts at velodrome in higher altitude that we re successful. You might be disregarding the other effects 7,000' has, to instead focus on Oxygen content.

The real story isn’t some meaningless record pro’s at loose ends are attempting to make up quality training by aiming at. It’s how much worse riding hard for hours on a trainer is for your body than riding outdoors. A lot of lab studies are going to get debunked under so much high level data showing some average doofus pounding out 2 hours in his basement before work can smash a UCI World Tour Pro to pieces in under 30 minutes. Those claiming e-sports = real sports have never before been given such a hard thrashing since nobody actually really cared to give up their life long enough to prove otherwise.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Nom De Plume 05/27/2020 at 12:29

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I wasn’t aware of the multiple other factors you bring up. I used to follow racing but no longer.

I’m certainly focused on O2 content because I really feel that getting near 10,000 feet and over. I wasn’t aware of the other factors of elevation you bring up - maybe because those don’t affect my riding much.

I’m not quite understanding what your last paragraph is trying to say. Psychologically, I find indoor trainers 10x harder than outdoor riding. Physically, maybe 2x harder than outdoor.

I think you’re saying there will be data showing indoor riding is more difficult/higher training than outdoors?

VincentMalamute-Kim > benjrblant 05/27/2020 at 13:04

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https://ridewithgps.com/routes/27413375

I saw that route and the photo shows at least one set of gravel tires and one set of skinny road tires. So those guys are probably young and nuts.

But if we do that route, I might suggest to my friend to use his mountain bike. He wants comfort. I might use my hardtail for the 2" tires.

Thanks for the advice.

Nom De Plume > VincentMalamute-Kim 05/27/2020 at 13:08

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Being born at elevation and not moving to it well into adulthood makes a huge difference. A few years to even begin meaningful adaptation is probably a conservative figure.

There are a lot of highly skilled, not just highly fit, riders who cannot hold their own in online trainer racing. These same riders are the ones pulled into scientific testing in a lab to be lab rats. It speaks volumes how poorly most of them perform when placed up against someone who only rides a trainer and sees some success at online racing. Riders who can survive and prosper at Roubaix or three week tours hardly lack for toughness or any other trait. VO2 is often off the charts, another lab test. :)

I’m quite clearly saying this pandemic has invalidated decades of claimed scientific and physiological facts derived from experiments conducted in an unnatural environ ment on top tier athletes.