Why not, if it's this or a rattle can?

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/23/2020 at 21:24 • Filed to: None

I have two vehicles to paint and I was going to use low-sheen Rust-Oleum. I imagine there'd be far less overspray...

DISCUSSION (39)

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/23/2020 at 21:42

I know nothing about sprayers. Is that a decent general purpose homeowner unit? Like spraying interior and exterior walls, fences?

facw > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/23/2020 at 21:54

Interior walls & ceilings

Exterior siding, fences & decks

Cabinets, furniture & trim

VincentMalamute-Kim > facw
05/23/2020 at 21:58

Is Rusty’s model the best value for that stuff?

66P1800inpieces > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/23/2020 at 21:58

Take a look at https://www.harborfreight.com/high-volume-low-pressure-spray-gun-kit-44677.html

The Wagner type has an electric solenoid type pump-plunger if I recall and wasn’t that great even when I tried to use it for the intended purpose of regular latex paint. The HVLP ones are used for woodworking and finishing and although I haven’t used one yet they are supposed to be good for car panels. The HF one is cheap, decent ones cost $600-900.

Nom De Plume > facw
05/23/2020 at 21:58

I’d be concerned about paint thickness and droplet size. Automotive paint goes on in much thinner layers than fence paint. Primer, but still.

PyramidHat > facw
05/23/2020 at 22:01

Roofs, doors, fenders, quarter panels, trunk lids

PyramidHat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/23/2020 at 22:02

Hell, give it a go. You’re doing experimentation for us...

66P1800inpieces > 66P1800inpieces
05/23/2020 at 22:11

https://www.harborfreight.com/portable-hvlp-paint-stain-sprayer-64933.html this one might be a little better.

dumpsterfire! > 66P1800inpieces
05/23/2020 at 22:33

I painted a car with that sprayer. Orange peel for days, but operator error played the biggest role. But using a real paint mixed with a hardener makes it better than rattle canning.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Nom De Plume
05/23/2020 at 23:43

I'm not using automotive paint, but thinned-down Rust-Oleum.

Nom De Plume > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/23/2020 at 23:50

Wasn’t clear if this was on the body (going to be painted) or somewhere just getting covered in Rustoleum.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/23/2020 at 23:52

I bought it a year ago and read the reviews. I haven't even opened it yet.

HammerheadFistpunch > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/23/2020 at 23:56

Is that the car paint model? You need the spark protected one of you plan to use automotive paints.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/24/2020 at 00:02

But I think if this is an experiment worth trying.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch
05/24/2020 at 00:19

No automotive paint, but low-sheen Rust-Oleum. If it were automotive paint, I wouldn't be trying it.

Slant6 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/24/2020 at 00:24

You might be better off doing the old 50-50 Rust-Oleum paint thinner with a foam roller method. I painted my truck that way in highschool, came out not bad. Just gotta wetsand between coats.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Nom De Plume
05/24/2020 at 00:26

No, I aim to paint the entire car.

shop-teacher > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/24/2020 at 00:30

I am very curious to see how this turns out!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Slant6
05/24/2020 at 00:41

For air spraying, the recipe is one part paint to three parts acetone. And overspray blown all over the neighborhood. I'm betting the overspray is greatly reduced using this gun.

Nom De Plume > shop-teacher
05/24/2020 at 00:41

Me as well. I’m accustomed to these type of ideas packaged with an even crazier assortment of modifications that make it better than the real thing.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > shop-teacher
05/24/2020 at 00:44

Satin finish Rust-Oleum on a CVPI that's been rode hard and put up wet. Mismatched paint already, and two of the door panels already rattle canned. How could this end badly?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Nom De Plume
05/24/2020 at 00:44

Oh, this'll definitely be one to report back about.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/24/2020 at 00:46

I will report. I want to do the job in my driveway.

Slant6 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/24/2020 at 00:52

There is no overspray with a foam roller though. When it's thin enough it levels out very nicely, just gotta do about 10 coats.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Slant6
05/24/2020 at 00:58

It’s an intriguing thought.

shop-teacher > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/24/2020 at 08:58

I can't argue that logic!

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/24/2020 at 11:43

I did my 92 Dodge Caravan that way. Regular house roller, Rustoleum, no thinning, sand between coats. I thought it turned out surprisingly well.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/24/2020 at 12:19

So how does the idea strike you of trying that airless sprayer instead?

D o remember correctly that you are a physician and an acquaintance of yours bought their own ventilator?

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/24/2020 at 16:11

I’m thinking of getting an airless sprayer. Better for fences, exterior house. If I had one at the time, I would’ve used it for the Caravan too .

Not sure if I understand your second question though. Are you saying I should wear a respirator when using the sprayer? If so, yes.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/24/2020 at 16:16

I’ll let you know how it works out. Indeed, ‘tis a project worthy of an Oppo report.

I corresponded here at the beginning of the COVID Difficulties with someone who is a retired, or retiring physician. This person told me of a friend of his who’d bought a respirator on Ebay in case his wife contracted COVID and he’d be able to take care of her with it. I was wondering if you were that correspondent. I wanted to ask you how your friend and his wife were doing after 8 weeks of this.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/24/2020 at 17:45

oh - you left out “I” which would have made your meaning clear:

Do remember correctly that you are a physician

I thought you were admonishing me that since I’m a physician I should know better and wear respiratory protection when painting. I c ompletely misinterpreted what you were asking.

But y es, I’m the retired physician. My car buddy is still a practicing ENT surgeon and he bought the US Army “ICU-in-a-suitcase” which includes a ventilator. He had to get hold of MIL-spec connectors and wire up a cable from the power supply to the unit but it works .

They call him when ventilator patients need tracheostomies but Milwaukee never got overwhelmed by COVID . His wife is fine - she’s strictly forbidden to leave their property.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/24/2020 at 17:51

OH MY GOODNESS! It’s like the Oxford comma . My remark comes across as a scold or a lecture and nothing could be further from my intent, which I think you realize. Apologies.

I guess your friend would be uniquely qualified to intubate his wife, if such became necessary. With any luck his suitcase ventilator can remain on the shelf in the garage next to the emergency generator.

Do you think communities such as Milwaukee or others are at any risk of being overwhelmed by COVID moving forward?

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/24/2020 at 21:07

yeah, I did think you were reprimanding me for something unclear to me then decided I just didn’t understand your question!

I think the whole social distancing/lockdown worked for flattening the curve. A lot of people are now saying we overreacted but forgetting how much worse it could have been without the extreme measures.

So now even if we do have more outbreaks, we’re better prepared (more ventilators, ICU beds , overflow plans, testing with contact tracing and isolation ) to handle future extreme patient loads. And we’re learning more about the disease and how to better treat patients with every week that passes.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/24/2020 at 22:44

The more I think on it, the more interested I am in testing out that or rather painting my car with that airless sprayer. Very curious. And I’ll be using Rust-Oleum...

Your comment reinforces the conclusions I've been reaching on my own. I am appalled at how political it's gotten with people just trying so hard to troll each other.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/25/2020 at 16:07

My daughter is due to give birth to our first grandchild latter part of July. Our daughter and her husband live in Utah and we live in California. She and her husband, and we, have been diligently social distancing these many weeks. What would you suggest we do vis-a-vis social distancing if/when we visit them after she spawns? Mask if we enter their home? Not enter their home? Not go at all? What are your thoughts on that?

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/26/2020 at 21:18

I’m not qualified to answer all your questions. But a few generalizations and I can’t resist giving advice anyway. O ur knowledge of COVID is increasing so fast. Things on ground (infection rates, spikes, openings, closings ) are changing week to week. N o one is really going to know for sure right now what is the correct thing to do in two months . So much is going to depend on the facts on the ground in your location and hers at the time of the visit .

If your location’s infection rate has dropped to a low level, risks of visiting will be low. The severity of social distancing measures inside the home would be determined by the infection prevalence at the time and in your locations.

Re-reading that makes me sound like a politician avoiding an answer. Yes I am . Right now I’m inclined to go and practice severe social distancing with masks and not stay long.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/27/2020 at 00:31

Thank you. In the end, it’s for me and us to decide and be responsible. But it’s good to have the input of a few good people to consider. Rigorous social distancing with masks and not stay long is right about where I am landing. We’ll drive 800 miles to get there, stay but a moment, and drive 800 miles home. Another Oppo, a physician and researcher, suggested also seeing about being tested before embarking, something I had not considered. And like you, almost verbatim, he emphasized how things are changing week to week.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/27/2020 at 12:55

The other Oppo sounds like he too, actually listens to science! ( and n ot the president)

I just listened to an NPR interview with a infectious disease specialist pointing out that now it’s known that the virus spreads mostly through droplets (we initially thought aerosol spread so masks were ineffective ) . Being outdoors greatly reduces risk (also masks, distance, etc as you know). And July is good timing to spend a lot of time outside during your visit.

I thought about your issue more last night. Everything is about risk. What level of risk is acceptable to you and your daughter. Even if you don ’t visit , the new kid has some degree of risk to the virus no matter what. The parents have to go out and interact with the outside world with some risk of bringing the virus back . What you are adding to the risk with your visit is probably minimal.

Overall risk is probably greater for you than it is for the kid during the visit. I know kids/babies get the virus and have had bad outcomes but it’s less likely, less severe statistically for them than it is for you. Newborns don’t have a good immune system but they’re protected for a while (I forget - many weeks? a few months?) by maternal antibodies (breast feeding helps that).

I thought about you getting an antibody test prior to visiting. At this moment, I don’t think there’s enough info on whether this makes you immune and unlikely to be reinfected to spread the virus to the newborn. Even if it showed you have had the infection, you should still maintain all precautions.

Or if the Oppo meant you should get a nasal swab test (RT-PCR test) to see if you have an active but asymptomatic infection so you would cancel the trip if it was positive - that’s a good idea.

After all that - it sounds like you are knowledge able on this and have been reading up and will make reasonable and rational decisions for yourself and the kid.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/27/2020 at 13:32

Thanks for taking the time to share. I am taking the responsibility and not trying to foist it onto anyone else, but interested in what folks like you have to offer to inform me. Unless something changes drastically, I assume we will go and I assume we will not stay long. We will mask when we visit or handle the baby. I have a stash of N95s that I followed Dr. Fauci’s advice and did not use, and I gave a few of them to a nurse friend. We’ll wear those around the baby. Makes sense that the risk is likely greater to us , which is fine. And yes, testing, I was not thinking antibodies, but the asymptomatic infection case.

Thanks again for the input! And I’ll be sure to reach out once I’ve experimented with the airless sprayer.