Scorching hot take

"AestheticsInMotion" (aestheticsinmotion) 05/21/2020 at 16:41 • Filed to: None

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Hayden Christensen was an AMAZING casting choice for Anikan. He absolutely nailed the dark, brooding, image, perfectly portraying a s truggling young man falling to darkness . Perfection. I’m talking Game of Thrones level casting. And t he makeup/wardrobe team ? Killed it.

If not for some of the worst dialouge in modern film, e pisode III would be a masterpiece. There’s a great storyline hidden within the muck that was episodes I-III, A nd someone should do it justice...

Hotter take? We should get R-rated Star Wars remakes in 10 years, but w ith good writers this time.

*flamesuit on*

interstate366, now In The Industry > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:45

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We’ll get R-rated Star Wars the same day we get M-rated Pokemon games. A.K.A. never.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:46

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Star Wars: Best actors worst wri ting.

Star Trek: Best actors best writing.

Fire Fly: Best Ever.

The Expanse: Fucking hell where did this amazing piece of space sci-fy come from. Star forks can suck it.

HammerheadFistpunch > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:47

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I’ve heard this take before...I don’t buy it.  he did okay with the material he had but he didn’t elevate the role IMO.  FElt like I was always looking at an actor.

facw > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:47

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I liked Episode III. Certainly better than any of the current trilogy in my mind (I haven’t seen the newest one, but I think the reviews give me good justification to doubt it) .

AestheticsInMotion > interstate366, now In The Industry 05/21/2020 at 16:48

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Which I've also thought of and VERY MUCH WANT. Pokémon wars? Political turmoil? Factions? Ethical dilemma? Yes plz

Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:48

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Seconded. EpIII is far and away the best of the prequels. 

AestheticsInMotion > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 05/21/2020 at 16:48

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I really need to watch the rest of the Expanse. Loved season one.

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:49

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Been lurking on r/prequel memes too much again? /s

Joking aside, this is a solid take. Though The Mouse will never make any  R-rated Star Wars content. I would almost bet other people’s money Lucas had that written into the sale contract as he was adamant about his universe being accessible for kids. 

AestheticsInMotion > HammerheadFistpunch 05/21/2020 at 16:50

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I don't believe anyone could have taken that dialouge and made it bearable. I watched a super cut of the scenes with him and Padme together and good lord is it terrible. 

interstate366, now In The Industry > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:50

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I mean, SWSH did have an ethical dilemma, sort of, but it was kind of nonsensical. “I’m awakening the source of all this energy because we might need it in 1000 years!”

AestheticsInMotion > Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast 05/21/2020 at 16:52

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The clones turning on the jedis.

Introduction of General quadcopter.

Death of Dooku.

Anakin/Obi-Wan fight.

So many great scenes. 

MonkeePuzzle > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:52

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I HATED him... oh wait, he turns out to be the most hated person in the universe...it WAS perfect casting!

AestheticsInMotion > MonkeePuzzle 05/21/2020 at 16:54

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Anakin's story is quite tragic. I like yo imagine a world where that was a slightly larger focus, and it was written by GoT team (not the last season obviously) 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:54

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jar jar was the best part of star wars

the fucking ewoks are a close second

hows that for a scorching hot take.

ttyymmnn > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:55

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Sorry, but Hayden Christe nsen was by far and away the worst actor in a series of very bad films. Worse even than Natalie Portman, who at least has some acting chops. Just go to IMDB and see what roles he’s landed since SW.

AestheticsInMotion > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 05/21/2020 at 16:56

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DjkxJfYDTZXs&ved=2ahUKEwj9hvrY68XpAhWV4J4KHaZcA54Qt9IBMBd6BAgWEEQ&usg=AOvVaw1EvNSjOar9LlnXwzR_DEGI

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:57

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hahaha yeah...i think hes on to something

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:58

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The opening scene with the epic space battle over courtesan was great too.

Textured Soy Protein > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:59

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Expanse is good but Season 4 is a step down from previous seasons. 

TheRealBicycleBuck > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 16:59

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I read the book s. They did a decent job of translating the written word into a visual spectacle, with the expected caveats of altered and compressed storylines.

Textured Soy Protein > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:00

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Lemme guess, you recently read this article that randomly found its way into my google suggestions?

https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/5/19/21262896/revenge-of-the-sith-star-wars-15-years-later

AestheticsInMotion > ttyymmnn 05/21/2020 at 17:00

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Oh, he totally dropped off the face of the planet after that. But I put much more of the blame on writing than acting in this particular case. I just rewatched all the star wars movies and honestly... None of them are really *good*. Definitely a ton of nostalgia though!

Time for Lord of the Rings! Looking forward to seeing Christopher Lee and Ian McKellen together

AestheticsInMotion > Textured Soy Protein 05/21/2020 at 17:01

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Nope!

But I’ll read it now

(edit) oh God. I had already forgotten some of the more egregious writing choices. Episode II was almost painful to get through 

gokstate > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:02

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No way.

Worst on screen romance of all time with Padme . Way too gritty

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:03

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I agree. I think the cringy parts of his character weren’t his fault. It’s like saying Robert Pattinson is a bad actor because He’s sucked in Twilight. 

AestheticsInMotion > gokstate 05/21/2020 at 17:04

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Lmao. I don't disagree with the romance take. 

AestheticsInMotion > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/21/2020 at 17:05

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Very curious to see what he does with The Batman

jminer > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:09

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I didn’t love the role, but you really weren’t supposed to. The thing I hated most was him getting CG’d into the end credits of episode VI but that’s George’s fault.  I agree with you about Episode III, all in all it was decent especially Sam Jackson!

I watched the despecialized version of the original trilogy a few weeks ago and found it quite calming.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:09

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Im hoping this Batman is a Vampire, and a  brooding teenage telepath. 

Also I just read that Haden Christianson was also considered for Edward Cullen.

MonkeePuzzle > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/21/2020 at 17:11

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or that Kristen Stewart was a bad actor in Twilight when indeed it was just a lifeless puppet who played her role. 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:12

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One does not simply walk into Mordor!!!

So many good lines.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:13

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Here is the LOTR/Star Wars mash up you are looking for. Now we just need obi juan below saying he has the high ground. 

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:13

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Well you’re right about one thing: this WAS a scorching hot take.

MonkeePuzzle > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:13

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the most believable part is that the loss of Natalie might drive someone to become the most evil person ever

and HOW DARE YOU post a “scorching hot take” about ana ki n and not sink to posting this gif?

ttyymmnn > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:14

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We watched all of the SW movies in order prior to the release of Ep IX. But even given the horrible dialog, Christensen couldn’t even deliver a line without slurring over the words. I can only believe he was hired solely for his looks and not for his acting ability.

But aside from the acting, you have to give a TON of the blame to George Lucas. He basically had one good idea (Star Wars) and milked it into an empire built on that one idea. The best Star Wars movies are the ones that he didn’t direct (ESB, ROTJ). I firmly believe that the best writers should let somebody else direct their films. Aaron Copland was a fantastic composer, but his music was best played with Leonard Bernstein conducted it.

And don’t get me started on the LOTR movies. I have lost count of the number of times that I’ve read those books. The movies looked fantastic, and I was happy that they hired some of the famous illustrators when putting it together. That said, I’m not crazy about the score, and I am not at all a fan of the changes to the stories. And The Hobbit is by far the most egregious of the lot. Those films should have been titled something else with the subtitle “Inspired by The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien .”

zipfuel > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:15

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Still haven’t seen the third prequel, I’ve heard it’s better but the second was so bad I couldn’t bring myself to endure any more.

In speaking with a grandmaster level star wars n erd about this he figured the originals are as good as they are because nobody respected George Lucas enough to read his shitty dialogue verbatim (the snippets you see in the early screen tests are truly cringeworthy).

ttyymmnn > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:19

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None of them are really *good*.

I heard a NYT movie reviewer say that if you took all the SW movies and rated them 1-9, they would all be tied for 4th place.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:21

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Ewan McGregor is the MVP tho. 

AestheticsInMotion > MonkeePuzzle 05/21/2020 at 17:27

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Get outa here! Team Jolie!

Arrivederci > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:27

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I agree. I think RotS is one of the best of the Skywalker saga, even with the terrible dialogue. PM and AotC were both pretty meh, but RotS was excellent. Hell, if they fixed the dialogue it might be the best one they made.

Don’t @ me.

AestheticsInMotion > zipfuel 05/21/2020 at 17:27

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III is significantly better than the first two. Which is not to say it's a good movie. 

AestheticsInMotion > jminer 05/21/2020 at 17:29

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I was always sad that they had this whole huge group of jedi for the prequels and didn't really do anything with them until they were all somehow killed off despite how unlikely that would have been. 

AestheticsInMotion > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/21/2020 at 17:30

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I'm also mad that he was only in one movie. Wtf

DipodomysDeserti > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:31

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There’s a particularly great scene in that movie involving some of her...assets.

That movie is such hot garbage its kind of fun to watch. Was afraid of getting shot while at shooting ranges when that came out, knowing some asshole would try to bend a bullet.

sony1492 > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:41

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Go around telling people to,” curve the bullet” , its great fun

AestheticsInMotion > DipodomysDeserti 05/21/2020 at 17:47

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Oh, I know that scene quite well. Wanted i s very much a guilty pleasure of mine.

AestheticsInMotion > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 05/21/2020 at 17:47

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I can't let you have all fun!! 

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:49

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Ugh that fucking movie... I can make bullets arc because I moved muh arm fasts!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:52

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Oatmeal Squares RULE!!!

AestheticsInMotion > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 05/21/2020 at 17:53

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I can make bullets arc... Downward. 

AestheticsInMotion > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 05/21/2020 at 17:54

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Unmilked cinnamon toast crunch is the IDEAL breakfast!

wafflesnfalafel > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 17:56

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credit where credit is due - you are right, the casting was not the worst part about those movies

ttyymmnn > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 18:05

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This kid right here is a better actor than Hayden Christensen. 

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > ttyymmnn 05/21/2020 at 18:21

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George Lucas is very good at ideas and creating a universe. He is not very good at assembling those ideas into a cohesive story. The best thing Disney could do with the Star Wars property is bring George in to generate ideas for the writing team to use to make coherent movies out of.

That and don’t switch directors and writing teams for each movie in a trilogy. The JJ-Rian-JJ switches in the new trilogy are writing whiplash.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 18:23

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His look was ok, the horrible story writing, acting... I can’t even watch the Phantom Edit. After RotJ the only films I consider any good at all are Rogue One and I could The Mandalorian since it’s so high budget.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 18:26

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Theres almost no reason for movie 1. 2 and 3 are what happens when writers spend all day “you know what would be cool” and forget to write the dialogue and plot, assuming the special effects will make up for it.

vaders story arc could have been great. as kevin Smith said “the most evil villian in space is from a brooding teenager....yeah thats about right” good guy -> descent into madness -> space overlord -> redemp tion

instead lucas went unhindered

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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 05/21/2020 at 18:34

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He had the high ground.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 18:36

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AestheticsInMotion > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 05/21/2020 at 18:37

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That was amazing

Cash Rewards > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 18:37

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You're not wrong about the dialogue, but that makes it awfully hard to know if you're right about the rest

AestheticsInMotion > Cash Rewards 05/21/2020 at 18:49

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That is a fair point 

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Textured Soy Protein 05/21/2020 at 19:21

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I hate to be that guy, but the book was better, especially for this season.

I love the show, but the books have a lot more humor and more subtlety in the politics.

Jim Spanfeller > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 19:23

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DORITOS TASTE GOOD IN CHOCOLATE PUDDING!!! There, I said it. It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact!

3point8isgreat > ttyymmnn 05/21/2020 at 20:23

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Whoa. Whoa. You don’t like the score for LOTR? Its one of my favorite movie soundtracks ever. Even had a quartet play C oncerning hobbits while the bridal party and I  walked down the aisle at my wedding.

ttyymmnn > 3point8isgreat 05/21/2020 at 20:56

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Well, that’s why there are so many different flavors of ice cream! So we can all can find something we like. I just find the main themes (Hobbits, Aragorn, Rohan) a bit trite, and when they return, it seems they are always with the same orchestration. Leitmotifs are important, and John Williams made a career out of melodies that represent different aspects of the film, but his work seems much more subtle, more imagin ative . I feel like the LOTR themes kind of bash you over the head. But hey, that’s just my opinion.

MUSASHI66 > AestheticsInMotion 05/21/2020 at 22:17

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I think he did one of the worst acting jobs in a big movie like that in recent history, and the lack of chemistry between him and Padme was off the charts.

Plus, the freaky “oh you’re just a kid but let’s make out in the next movie anyway and make babies” always freaked me out.

Hotter take? Meesa  like Jar Jar Binks.

Brian McKay > AestheticsInMotion 05/22/2020 at 00:18

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Who has acted in only one movie?