Another Project

"Long_Voyager94" (yourenotavalidusername)
05/21/2020 at 07:58 • Filed to: rallyvan, Engine Swaps

Picking up an 02 3.8L in a couple weeks.

The plan is to install it in my 94 to finally get my performance back where it should be.

The swap itself should be pretty straight forward, but the wiring and fuel system have me slightly concerned.

I know the new engine can be rewired to run on the 90s ECM, just have to get some more info on it.

Hopefully when I find the wiring info I will also find out how to run the returnless fuel rail on a return system.

Either way, the extra 65hp/65ft-lbs will easily be worth the hassle.

DISCUSSION (28)

pip bip - choose Corrour > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 08:05

slap on a supercharger instead

Long_Voyager94 > pip bip - choose Corrour
05/21/2020 at 08:15

Eh, realistically the 3.3 can only handle 5-6lbs of boost reliably, so it’d still only be around 190 hp/220ft-lbs.

This engine is 215hp/245ft-lbs......

pip bip - choose Corrour > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 08:18

hemi V8 conversion it is then

shop-teacher > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 08:20

That's a hefty chunk of extra power!

Wacko > pip bip - choose Corrour
05/21/2020 at 08:31

I keep on telling him to hellcat the caravan. Rwd burn-out machine...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 08:42

65 hp is not insignificant.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Wacko
05/21/2020 at 08:43

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a32464508/hellcat-v-8-swapped-jeep-grand-wagoneer-for-sale/

Michael > pip bip - choose Corrour
05/21/2020 at 08:50

Slap on a supercharger instead as well

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 09:02

Iirc that last time you talked about this, you said you'll stick with the 3.3? What changed or am I remembering something wrong?

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 09:19

That is a big percent gain in hp. This should get interesting.

Brickman > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 09:28

That should take about 30 minutes to do? :P

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 09:40

I know this is super cheap, but at what point is it easier to just buy a Terminator X? It’ll have a higher output with that management, too, and it’ll be easier to modify in the future.

DirtyDodge > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 09:40

ALL THE POWER!!!

Kinja'd!!!

Also crazy to hear that that 3.8 puts out more horse power than my 85 Dodge Diplomat highway patrol car was rated at when new, 5.2 V8 rated at 175HP 250FT/lbs. once rebuilt, made 200HP and 300FT/lbs on the dyno with a stock rebuild

Long_Voyager94 > DirtyDodge
05/21/2020 at 10:00

More hp, less torque.

In reality, the lack of torque of my 3.3 is what’s driving me nuts. 180ft-lbs compared to the 213ft-lbs my original 3.8 had. 33ft-lb loss is VERY noticeable in normal use.

Long_Voyager94 > ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
05/21/2020 at 10:01

Finding a good 3.8L is what changed.

At the time, there was nothing worth buying in the area. Now, I’m getting her uncle’s 120k van for free.

Long_Voyager94 > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
05/21/2020 at 10:01

Should be very fun.

Long_Voyager94 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/21/2020 at 10:02

Nor is 65 ft-lbs. ;)

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 10:03

Ooooo nice!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Long_Voyager94
05/21/2020 at 10:11

I owned a standard length jelly bean Voyager. Actually it was the Plymouth variant... It was a great vehicle sophisticated handled well comfortable but it really could have benefited from the extra 65 horsepower.

Wacko > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/21/2020 at 10:17

Original paint...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Wacko
05/21/2020 at 10:20

I am not easily impressed by cars, but this one makes me feel sort of giddy.