4,000 is Many Gallons

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
05/19/2020 at 14:36 • Filed to: None

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InFierority Complex > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/19/2020 at 14:38

Did the front fall off?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > InFierority Complex
05/19/2020 at 14:39

I haven’t been able to find any details of the spill itself.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/19/2020 at 14:43

That’s a big boat.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/19/2020 at 14:43

PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/19/2020 at 14:45

While 4,000 gallons is certainly a lot, it’s less than most road going fuel delivery rigs. Don’t get more wrong, it sucks and shouldn’t happen, especially when you consider how much surface area 4,000 gallons would spread across when floating on water. Hell I’m pretty sure at least that much has spilled in my garage during a routine oil change on my vehicles.

That said, the cynic in me must believe that this was the public ly facing, straw which broke the camels back, so- to- speak and they wanted to relieve Hoffmann of her command of that ship .

That or some Virginia environmentalist wanted blood and the Navy just needed to show it ‘did something’ about the spill .

McMike > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/19/2020 at 14:50

Fortunately, gas is really cheap right now so it won’t cost them a lot to top the tank back off.

XJDano > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/19/2020 at 14:53

Gas is so cheap right now.

My bird IS the word > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/19/2020 at 15:01

So THATS what that button does.

user314 > InFierority Complex
05/19/2020 at 15:03

The USS Philippine Sea , a guided-missile cruiser, spilled the diesel fuel into the York River on Thursday morning, news outlets reported.

The ship was at a pier at the Naval Weapons Station in Yorktown at the time, according to Ted Brown, a U.S. Fleet Forces Command Environmental Public Affairs Officer.

A Navy oil recovery team and the U.S. Coast Guard responded, and most of the fuel was contained, officials said. Cleanup efforts began immediately using a fuel vacuum truck and fuel-absorbing materials, Brown added. He said there was little impact to the shoreline.

Transferring fuel maybe? I’d guess either a fitting was improperly tightened or someone hit the wrong valve.

Still, it could have been so, so much worse :

A sailor involved in a 94,000-gallon jet fuel spill at Naval Air Station Oceana, Virginia, has been discharged from the Navy.

On May 10 (2017) , fuel was accidentally being pumped from a 880,000-gallon tank into 2,000-gallon tank. The spill was not discovered until the next day, Navy officials said this summer.

About 25,000 of those spilled gallons seeped into local streams, according to Navy Region Mid-Atlantic, the command that oversees Oceana.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
05/19/2020 at 15:09

Commanding a ship is a big job and it might not have been going well for her. I’d guess command doesn’t pan out for a lot of skippers, but there isn’t a disaster like this for us all to hear about, though such sackings seem to always be reported in one of the military news sites. She hadn’t been skipper long, either, less than a year.

Back when I was in the Army, stationed in Germany, a guy had a Gerry can full of diesel that tipped on its side, was missing the rubber gasket under the cap, and he drove down the road with it pouring out the back of the pickup truck he was driving. Probably 3-4 gallons spilt. I was amazed at how much road surface that amount of fuel could coat. And the Germans were really touchy about that sort of thing, though none of us went out of our way to mention it to them.

I’d imagine 4,000 gallons would cover square miles.

wafflesnfalafel > PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
05/19/2020 at 15:12

right - seems like there is more to the story on that one... And those Ticonderoga class boats still look super cool to me.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/19/2020 at 15:14

whoops!...wrong button

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/19/2020 at 15:26

That is surprisingly a small amount of fuel for a spill. When the locomotives go into a river they can have around 10,000 gallons on each engine. Not to mention the possibility of a ruptured rail car with crude.

Distraxi's idea of perfection is a Jagroen > InFierority Complex
05/19/2020 at 15:33

Would have been a problem if it did, because it was still inside the environment.

nermal > McMike
05/19/2020 at 15:47

Pfffft oil futures were in the negatives a few weeks ago , where companies were paying others to take oil. The Navy probably made money on this transaction.

ttyymmnn > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
05/19/2020 at 15:50

Best. Skit. Ever. Those guys were amazing.

ttyymmnn > user314
05/19/2020 at 15:52

Damn, that Oceana spill is insane. So they hooked it up to the wrong tank, started pumping, then went home?

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/19/2020 at 15:52

Career. Over.

user314 > ttyymmnn
05/19/2020 at 16:07

Either that or had the pump going the wrong way.

user314 > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/19/2020 at 16:24

Sounds like they noticed right away and were able to set up booms to catch as much as possible.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > user314
05/19/2020 at 16:36

In rivers IIRC EPA estimates that when there is a fuel spill there is something like a 16% recovery. It’s not a good look.

user314 > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/19/2020 at 16:39

Navy spokesman says that “most of the fuel was contained”; I’d be curious to see the hard numbers on how much “most” of those 4000 gallons actually was.

user314 > My bird IS the word
05/19/2020 at 16:41

Kinja'd!!!

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > user314
05/19/2020 at 17:09

It’s extremely difficult to account for the fuel actually spilled and the amount cleaned up. It’s not like they had a flow meter attached to a pipe and said “Alright we are done, that’s 4,000 gallons in the river, close the valve”.

user314 > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/19/2020 at 17:13

Oh absolutely, and I wouldn’t expect an answer down to the eighth of a cup or anything , but they should still have a reasonable approximation of what was spilled versus what they were able to suction up or wring out of the booms. Even a percentage would be something.

Sovande > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2020 at 09:12

Any fuel spill by a regular person can result in a fine. For instance, if oil drips into the bilge and that oil mixes is then pumped out by my bilge pump, I’m liable for the cleanup and fines. Those fines can be up to $25,000 for a single drop of fuel or oil.

This cat only got fired for dumping 4000 gallons. Seems like a light sentence to me.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sovande
05/20/2020 at 10:26

Wohnst du in Deutschland?

Needless to say, less strict here. When I was stationed in Würzburg, there was also a strict rules that you could not idle your car in the morning for more than 30 seconds or be ticketed.

The night before I left the country, I drove along the Main River and passed a speed trap camera. I've often thought it would be funny to obscure the license plate and drive past with costume glasses and the fake nose fast enough to trigger the camera. A guy I worked with, an American, triggered one of those cameras and die Polizei actually came and contacted him at his apartment and delivered the photo. I don't know if they collected the fine from him, but I paid a cash fine to a cop one day for following to closely.

Sovande > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/20/2020 at 10:39

Who hit who with the what now?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sovande
05/20/2020 at 11:06

I’m not sure what you are asking me.