"BadMotorScooter" (badmotorscooter)
05/14/2020 at 15:23 • Filed to: None
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"BadMotorScooter" (badmotorscooter)
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Would you rather have an 8th-gen i7 with a MX150 GPU or a new Ice Lake 10th gen i7 with latest Iris Plus integrated graphics? All other specs the same. This would be for a college student with some graphics/video work (not heavy) and light gaming.
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Nom De Plume
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 15:32 |
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Laptop make and model of both please.
facw
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 15:40 |
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Honestly processor and graphics are the last things I look at in a laptop. I’d just go in assuming that both an MX150 and the integrated graphics generally suck, so I’d be limited. Maybe a bit more limited with the integrated option, but not much. Meanwhile, having the 10th gen (Comet Lake or Ice Lake?) might get you somewhat better battery life, but probably doesn’t get you a whole ton of performance.
For Sweden
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 15:43 |
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Is Ryzen not an option?
Roadkilled
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 15:44 |
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The battery life will likely be better with the Ice Lake. If the student needs a laptop that can run a long time, this may be the way to go. I don’t know when Intel Tiger Lake systems will come out, but you may see a drop in price in Ice Lake systems as laptop manufacturers try to get rid of old inventory.
farscythe - makin da cawfee!
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 15:45 |
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im generally averse to integrated graphix
so i’d go with the other one...
but im also years out of date on my puter knowledge
jminer
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 15:48 |
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I’d honestly get whatever is cheaper, the 10th gen mobile isn’t much of an upgrade over the 8th gen, also the MX150 isn’t much better than integrated mobile graphics, a GTX 1050 will run circles around it.
If you can wait a month though , do so and buy something with a 4000 series mobile Ryzen chip. They’re leaps and bounds ahead of Intel in almost every category now.
Nibby
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 15:53 |
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get the 10th gen... the MX150 is marginally better than iGPU anyways and will just cause more heat and throttling nightmares
fucking hate these low TDP quad core chips, they’re really gimmicky
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BadMotorScooter
> Nom De Plume
05/14/2020 at 15:55 |
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ASUS Zenbook UX461F with 8th gen i7 and MX150. Couple year old 2-in-1. 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM, $999
Lenovo Yoga C940, Ice Lake i7 w Iris Plus. 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM, 802.11AX, 2 Thunderbolt ports, $1090 (with student/school discount)
I’m leaning toward the more current Yoga just don’t want to give up a lot without a dedicated graphics card. But these aren’t gaming systems rather ultraportable 2-in-1s to go to class and everything in between,
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BadMotorScooter
> facw
05/14/2020 at 15:56 |
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That’s what I’m thinking - the more current Ice Lake will help with battery life which I think is more important for a college student than outright GPU performance. Considering neither are really great with graphics performance.
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BadMotorScooter
> For Sweden
05/14/2020 at 15:57 |
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I’m down to the two systems mentioned above based on price and other specs. Would consider Ryzen just does n’t happen to be in these systems.
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BadMotorScooter
> Roadkilled
05/14/2020 at 15:58 |
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I think that’s prob right - battery life is more important.
MoCamino
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 16:03 |
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Admittedly the only experience I have had with Asus is with an older tablet, and that tablet has been a good piece of equipment. But I do have about 15 years of experience with Lenovo laptops, both at work and personally. At least in my experience, they build good stuff. Especially g iven the Lenovo has a newer CPU, that’s what I’d buy.
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> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 16:03 |
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For pure graphics, Based on what I see here:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3412071/intel-10th-gen-ice-lake-performance-benchmarks.html?page=2
and here:
I say go with the one with the NVidia MX150.
However, you also have a 8th gen i7 vs a 10th gen i7.
Need to know which exact models of i7 to see if it tips things back the other way.
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BadMotorScooter
> jminer
05/14/2020 at 16:04 |
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Hmm, I didn’t know the 4000 Ryzen is coming out that soon. Might have to pause and look at that. Is it really supposed to be that much better?
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Nom De Plume
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 16:07 |
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The newer one is what I’d lean towards as well. If for nothing else more robust internal C-State programming to preserve battery life.
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BadMotorScooter
> Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
05/14/2020 at 16:17 |
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The Ice Lake has this : 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-1065G7 Processor (1.30 GHz, up to 3.90 GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 8 MB Cache)
The 8th gen is an i7-8550U
I saw that notebookcheck comparison above but I think that is the older Iris Plus. The newer Ice Lake version seems to be significantly better and uses 3733mhz system memory. I think the graphics performance is pretty similar although haven’t been able to find apples-apples specs/comparison. I’m leaning toward the newer 10th gen for battery life and all around performance outside of graphics.
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jminer
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 16:17 |
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There are a few laptops out now I but not widely available just yet.
Ryzen mobile 4000 is actually based on 3rd gen desktop which is Zen 2 architecture so their naming model is very confusing.
Here’s a few Lenovo laptops available in it.
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-300-series/IdeaPad-3-17ARE05/p/88IPS301433
EDIT: Heres a cpubenchmark comparing 10th gen mobile intel to Ryen 4000
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-4700U-vs-Intel-Core-i7-1065G7/3699vs3466
The mobile Ryzen 4000 beat a lot of intels 10th gen desktop range now...
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> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 16:22 |
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Get the one that folds better.
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> jminer
05/14/2020 at 16:23 |
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Get him folding though.
If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 16:24 |
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I would go with the MX150. Integrated graphics use the system RAM, so there’s less available to other applications, and the dedicated memory the MX150 has has over double the bandwith of the system RAM. If you’re doing image and video processing a discrete GPU seems like the better option to me.
Of course I could just be talking out my ass and I’m sure someone here will disagree with me.
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jminer
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
05/14/2020 at 16:26 |
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I like the plan!
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> BadMotorScooter
05/14/2020 at 17:46 |
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Here’s a CPU comparison
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8550U-vs-Intel-Core-i7-1065G7/m320742vsm888368
And read this anandtech review
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14664/testing-intel-ice-lake-10nm