Fun fact...

"Jim Spanfeller" (awesomeaustinv)
05/13/2020 at 16:17 • Filed to: None

The automatic transmission in a Ferrari 400 is a GM Turbo-Hydramatic. So...

If you ever find one in a salvage auction or whatever and it’s missing the engine, you could probably put something like a Chevy 350 V8 in it. Ferrari hot rod.

That is all.

DISCUSSION (24)

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Jim Spanfeller
05/13/2020 at 16:26

You’d be shocked how many older cars used GM Turbo -Hydramatics. Jaguars, Bentleys, Ferraris...

Jim Spanfeller > Snuze: Needs another Swede
05/13/2020 at 16:28

In that case, a 350 V8 swap would probably be the cheapest way to own a lot of those cars...

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Jim Spanfeller
05/13/2020 at 16:32

This would be a good idea if somehow the original engine grenaded. Probably need to fab some custom motor mounts and exhaust headers, though.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Jim Spanfeller
05/13/2020 at 16:35

Yeah and you pretty much have to since those engines are apparently very expensive to restore or maintain, like quite a bit more than what the car is worth. I talk to a guy with another kind of Ferrari sometimes and he said that and that there are parts for this car that are impossible to find as well.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Jim Spanfeller
05/13/2020 at 16:39

Absolutely.

The thing is, now you can start down the slippery slope of - well a 350 bolts to it, which is good. But i’m fairly sure the LS uses the same bellhousing bolt pattern - I think there’s one minor difference, like one bolt in the 350 is a centering stud in the LS, so you need to ream one of the holes in the bellhousing, but it’s something fairly trivial.

Of course the downside to the Turbo-Hydromatics is they are non-overdrive. But a 4L80, the 4 speed evolution of the TH400, isn’t much bigger. And a 6L90 is only slightly bigger besides...

So what I’m getting at is all these cars ends up with an LT-5 crate engine with a 10L90 behind it!

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > Jim Spanfeller
05/13/2020 at 16:40

Any car really....

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Snuze: Needs another Swede
05/13/2020 at 16:41

They’re a great transmission.

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > Snuze: Needs another Swede
05/13/2020 at 16:41

It’s not the same bell housing. Close, but a few bolts are different. There are a multitude of adapter plates though.

Jim Spanfeller > Snuze: Needs another Swede
05/13/2020 at 16:45

LS Ferrari would be epic.

jimz > Snuze: Needs another Swede
05/13/2020 at 16:47

Rolls Royce

fintail > Jim Spanfeller
05/13/2020 at 16:52

There’s a Straman convertible conversion on BaT right now, for added cocaine.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Jim Spanfeller
05/13/2020 at 16:57

Funner fact:from the mid-80's to the mid aughts, pretty much every BMW had a GM automatic transmission at some point

Jim Spanfeller > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
05/13/2020 at 16:59

And which Lincoln was it that had a BMW engine?

Snuze: Needs another Swede > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI
05/13/2020 at 17:01

Thanks. I thought they were basically interchangeable, but I must have misremembered or been thinking of something else.

ranwhenparked > Jim Spanfeller
05/13/2020 at 17:02

The Mark VII and Continental were offered with BMW diesels for a few years in the mid ‘80s.

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > Snuze: Needs another Swede
05/13/2020 at 17:02

M y experience is turbo 400 and 700r4 to LS, so maybe it works the other way around? Wh o knows.....

Hudson Hawkish > ranwhenparked
05/13/2020 at 17:28

But wasn’t there a BMW diesel with a Volvo Motor for awhile? So confusing.

That's the beauty of the PRV one shitty design used by 6 companies all of whom can point the finger at someone else.

Hudson Hawkish > Snuze: Needs another Swede
05/13/2020 at 17:30

Good box. Cheap to fix. Parts everywhere

Cé hé sin > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
05/13/2020 at 17:31

Well, some models in some markets did. Others used Aisin units ( I think for Japan) and of course the fwd models continue to do so.

Generally they use ZF though and have done ever since they started making two pedal cars.

Interestingly, the GM and ZF five speeders both tended to rid themselves of reverse, expensively so in the case of the ZF which wasn’t its maker’s finest hour.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Jim Spanfeller
05/13/2020 at 17:33

Kinja'd!!!

I don’t remember the full story, but this guy had a 360 Modena, the motor blew, and he decided to swap in an LS with twin turbos pushing 1000HP. It’s bonkers!!!

cmill189 - sans Volvo > Jim Spanfeller
05/13/2020 at 17:50

I bet it has a weird bell housing pattern. The one in the Jaguar XJS wasn't a standard 400. The 4T65E GM made for Volvo is externally different too.

My bird IS the word > Snuze: Needs another Swede
05/13/2020 at 17:52

Vectors....

And the turbo-hysramatic works well. It is incredible that the later computer controlled boxes sucked so bad.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > My bird IS the word
05/13/2020 at 17:54

I’ve had nothing but great experiences with the 4L80E series. The 4L6 0s though...

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
05/13/2020 at 20:01

El_Uly would know better, My second cousin has a 330 2+2 that needs a rebuild due to age, and multiple dealers and a couple high end garages were like “nope not touching it, we’d only crate it back to Italy.” The prices he was getting quoted 40- 50k 7 years ago.