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Kinja'd!!! "Just Jeepin'" (macintux)
04/20/2020 at 08:15 • Filed to: Cruiselopnik

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Detailed look into the way Carnival responded (or didn’t) to the new virus. Not exactly a shining moment for a company with no shortage of black marks on its record.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-carnival-cruise-coronavirus/

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DISCUSSION (10)


Kinja'd!!! ranwhenparked > Just Jeepin'
04/20/2020 at 08:22

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Ive always suspected that they’ve become too big and unwieldy to manage properly. Taking almost all autonomy away from their divisions and centralizing almost all decision making at their two headquarters offices and constantly transferring officers from one line to another just doesn’t seem like a smart way to manage such a complex company.

They never should have been allowed to merge with P&O Princess, the combined company was double the size of their next closest competitor, and it’s been that way ever since.

Oh, and the lack of innovation. Building giant, overcrowded ships on the same cookie cutter hull design for 25 years. Sure, it's cheap and efficient, but makes it harder to work in new ideas and is also boring.


Kinja'd!!! Just Jeepin' > ranwhenparked
04/20/2020 at 08:24

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I’m inferring from this thoughtful and detailed response that, unlike me, you actually pay attention to the industry. You should write up a post or three on it.


Kinja'd!!! El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Just Jeepin'
04/20/2020 at 08:36

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Ban cruise ships. 


Kinja'd!!! Tripper > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
04/20/2020 at 08:49

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AGREEMENT!!! Went on one when I was 18, years later I thought, “boy am I glad I did that as a youngster because I never will again.” Really terrible way to see the ocean or any of the countries where the boat stops. Really great way to meet the worst kinds of tourists and prob get sick AF.


Kinja'd!!! SiennaMan > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!
04/20/2020 at 09:03

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 Unless one of our governments bails them out, I suspect there will be substantially fewer on the back end of all of this than there are now.  


Kinja'd!!! SiennaMan > Tripper
04/20/2020 at 09:05

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To be honest,  18 is probably about the worst age to go on a cruise unless it was one geared specifically towards teens on spring break.  I went on two in my early 30s when my wife and I were in our short lived DINK phase.  They're really geared towards older people looking to trade money for a little fun and sightseeing.


Kinja'd!!! Tripper > SiennaMan
04/20/2020 at 09:34

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I went with one of my best friends. We had a blast. FYI you put one end of a TP roll in the toilet on a cruise ship and flush...you can suck the whole roll clean in one flush !!! LOL

However, we didn’t know any better. The places where these ships stop are the WORST. People peddling those corny shell necklaces or looking to sell you drugs (but will actually just steal your money) I <3 Nassau/San Juan/St. Thomas t- shirts...scooter/jet ski rental places...

Partying on the ship was fun, but that got old and buffets sk eeved me out long before that full blown stage 5 wuhan rona.


Kinja'd!!! SiennaMan > Tripper
04/20/2020 at 09:53

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Yeah, the cruise I enjoyed the most went from Seattle to Alaska and back, got to hike in  the forest outside of I think Ketchikan and watch the glaciers crack off into glacier bay. It was also a much smaller ship than anything Carnival or Princess runs so it didn't feel like an experiment in how many people you can cram on top of a give hull..


Kinja'd!!! ranwhenparked > Just Jeepin'
04/20/2020 at 10:01

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I follow the industry, almost pursued a career in it, but transferred out of the a cademy to a regular school after 1 semester. Wouldn’t know where to begin writing something at the moment.


Kinja'd!!! Tripper > SiennaMan
04/20/2020 at 10:41

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Ah yeah that has to be a completely different demographic of passenger . I have heard the Alaskan cruises are really nice. However when I get to Alaska it will be for Snowboarding purposes.