Am I My Own Worst Enemy?

Kinja'd!!! "glemon" (glemon)
04/19/2020 at 10:46 • Filed to: None

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I hate squealy brakes. I have struggled with them on my IS300, have swapped out pads all new hardware.

I thought I had it kicked with the latest change of pads and hardware. But it came back. It is fairly mild when I gently apply the brakes, but goes away when I push a little harder.

Read about rotors getting glazed and causing squeal. I mostly drive like an old man, brake early and gently. Am I glazing my rotors and causing my own problems?

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DISCUSSION (16)


Kinja'd!!! PowderHound > glemon
04/19/2020 at 11:03

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Are your pads wearing evenly? You could have some bad slider pins on the brake itself? I think those could cause some squealing


Kinja'd!!! ClassicDatsunDebate > glemon
04/19/2020 at 11:13

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What vehicle?


Kinja'd!!! glemon > PowderHound
04/19/2020 at 11:15

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The pads do wear evenly, everything seems to be working as it should.  I scuffed the rotors with some fine sandpaper yesterday when I was swapping to the summer tires, so far so good, but only about ten miles since then.


Kinja'd!!! glemon > ClassicDatsunDebate
04/19/2020 at 11:18

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2002 Lexus IS300


Kinja'd!!! Ash78, voting early and often > glemon
04/19/2020 at 11:23

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Did you coat the backside of the pads (and any shims ) with Brake Quiet or similar?

I’ve always associate brake squeal with very high frequency vibration more than anything. Could be wrong — I’m pretty liberal with my anti-squeal stuff.

Yesterday (see all the blue stuff on the towel? Overspray):

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Kinja'd!!! PowderHound > glemon
04/19/2020 at 11:35

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Did you change to a different pad compound? I’ve always had a rough time chasing down brake squeal.


Kinja'd!!! ClassicDatsunDebate > glemon
04/19/2020 at 11:37

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Make sure the pins are lubricated, the pad “ears” move freely in the channel and use that quiet stuff on the back of the pads.  Squeal is usually caused by something vibrating and that is caused by either metal on metal binding or something loose that’s rattling.  


Kinja'd!!! TheRealBicycleBuck > glemon
04/19/2020 at 12:15

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Are you following proper bedding procedures? I follow what Powerstop recommends and I’ve never had a squealing problem.  https://www.powerstop.com/brake-pad-break-in-procedure/


Kinja'd!!! The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > glemon
04/19/2020 at 13:51

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Maybe you are used to T he Art of Losing.


Kinja'd!!! glemon > ClassicDatsunDebate
04/19/2020 at 15:09

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Thanks, the pads came with pre-in stalled anti-squeal shims, but wouldn't hurt to add a little more goop, I know I have a tube somewhere in the shop.


Kinja'd!!! glemon > Ash78, voting early and often
04/19/2020 at 15:10

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Supposed to have it on the shims already, but I could add more.


Kinja'd!!! glemon > TheRealBicycleBuck
04/19/2020 at 15:15

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I did the heat them up and cycle th em through as described in the article.  No squeak for the first couple weeks, then it started and pretty persistent, I scuffed the rotors, and it stopped again, will see for how long.


Kinja'd!!! TheRealBicycleBuck > glemon
04/19/2020 at 15:26

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It would be interesting if repeating the procedure eliminated the squeak. That might indicate that your braking habits are the source of the problem.


Kinja'd!!! glemon > TheRealBicycleBuck
04/19/2020 at 15:43

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I did try that, went away for a very short time, then came back.


Kinja'd!!! TheRealBicycleBuck > glemon
04/19/2020 at 15:47

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Well, I suppose that’s some evidence that it might be your driving that’s causing it. If the other suggestions don’t work, then you might have to reconsider your driving habits. If you are resting your left foot on the brake pedal, that might be a cause too. Even lightly resting your foot there activates your brake lights and pushes the pads against the rotors.


Kinja'd!!! brianbrannon > glemon
04/19/2020 at 21:51

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Braking gently wears out the inner pads and causes vibration because it's not enough pressure to move the caliper and squeeze the out side pads