Acting SECNAV's Speech to the Crew of the Roosevelt

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura) 04/07/2020 at 10:55 • Filed to: None

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This is appalling.

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lone_liberal > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 11:00

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I would like to know when Eraserhead became SecNav?

vondon302 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 11:05

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http://chng.it/bB2vwRcDMR

facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 11:07

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As I said yesterday, it’s astoundingly bad. But then this guy got the job because the last guy wasn’t ok with pardoning war criminals and restoring their rank and honors, so I guess it should be expected.

I also love that his office was trying to claim that this was a private speech. Guess he was “too naive or too stupid” to realize that it was obviously going to leak.  

ttyymmnn > facw 04/07/2020 at 11:12

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“Naive and stupid” is a job requirement for working in the Trump administration. 

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > lone_liberal 04/07/2020 at 11:12

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That goes beyond forehead - more like a fivehead...

I know the experts say not to touch your face, but everyday I am facepalming so much with each and every news story I think I’m going to break my skull. Maybe I should tune into OAN to get some good news for a change and hear that everything right now is just great and wonderful and things have never been better in the history of our country, if not the entire existence of planet earth.

Textured Soy Protein > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 11:12

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I’m truly shocked that a Trump appointee could be a piece of shit.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 11:15

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I saw a bit of this on the news last night. How did he ever think this was going to end well? Even if what he said was never recorded, the military are a very tight knit group. Hell, these are the guys you’re going to war with, and they would lay their lives on the line for any of their brothers in arms. I’m just waiting for the upper ranks  to stop obeying his orders in mass. The only way this ends is with Modley resigning.

InFierority Complex > facw 04/07/2020 at 11:16

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The “what the fuck!?” in the background at that part is priceless.

jimz > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 11:16

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he’s a toady, no surprise there. I get that armed forces require discipline and order, and that Capt. Crozier very likely knew he was risking his career, but doubling down on this horseshit is depressing.

the captain did the right thing sticking up for the safety of his crew. Modly did the “correct” thing by the rules of the Navy.

The real problem is when “right” and “correct” are so far apart.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > lone_liberal 04/07/2020 at 11:21

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He and Mr. Trump both belong to the same hair club for despots and toadies.

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > Textured Soy Protein 04/07/2020 at 11:30

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Everyone gets unlucky once in a while!

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WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 11:31

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I... don’t even think I can bear to listen to it.

I've read enough that I'm ashamed those who have chosen to serve our country and put themselves at risk had to hear it.

Grindintosecond > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 11:51

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I love him telling everyone what narrative they should believe, what they should think, whawt politics they should promote. Yup. Love hearing the response of the crew...”what the..”

This man has zero confidence now from the Naval officers and crew.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Grindintosecond 04/07/2020 at 12:02

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N akedly parr oting President Trump. All of the profanity. Fail

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz 04/07/2020 at 12:09

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Modly could have fired Crozier and then told the rest of us that he was bound to do so and the other officers and the rest of us could have accepted it. That Crozier would have understood that he was risking his career and credited Crozier with that. This illustrates again that there is only one Donald Trump and that there _ only is_ Donald Trump. I am alarmed by  how many people are okay with that.

jimz > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 12:19

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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

 Theodore Roosevelt

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 12:50

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I wonder where his political allegiance lives. Crozier needs to call him out, military subordination can go fuck itself.

Just right for this regime and this timeline. We’re going to need a new Nuremberg trials when this is finally over.

UserNotFound > jimz 04/07/2020 at 12:59

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Teddy was one of the first presidents to bring some amount of celebrity to the office and, in my opinion, one of the last ones to deserve it.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz 04/07/2020 at 13:35

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Anyone who serves Donald Trump in this administration is destined to fail because they are not Donald Trump. And if they succeeded in being  Donald Trump, or being as good as Donald Trump at some thing, they’d get fired for steeling attention from Donald Trump. Who takes this on? Donald Trump has broken many brains across the political spectrum.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > fintail 04/07/2020 at 13:36

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Hopefully, not to be conducted from the bottom of a smoking, radioactive hole. I think I’ll watch Dr. Strangelove again during the Great Hunker. Trump has surrounded himself with people who would stand by while he pushed the button.

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 13:38

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I never served, but grew up in a Navy family, (not U.S. N avy) and my old man, “whoa, the admiral and I don’t get along”, was the CO of a warship.  I’ve got mixed feelings about the whole experience, but wasn’t surprised to see Navy brass eat their own young.  Now every man and woman in the U.S. navy is disgusted by the acting secretary.  They’re gonna have to shoot him out of a cannon to fix this. 

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 13:42

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“material condition of the warship ”

Congrats you’re all cogs .

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 13:48

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The slavish devotion of the base shows itself to the highest levels of this regime.

I’m optimistic we won’t be nuked, but a lot of people will be worse off at the end of this term compared to  the beginning. And most of them still won’t get it.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 04/07/2020 at 13:51

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Cool. What navy, then? Honestly, I don’t have a problem with them sacking Capt. Crozier. He had to assume that they would. They just could have been professional about it rather than sycophantically political.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > UserNotFound 04/07/2020 at 14:03

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WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 14:04

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I feel like Captain Crozier knew it would end his career, but decided it was the right thing to do, so he stepped up and did it. Kudos to him for that.

Also I sent you an email last night - hopefully you got it?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW 04/07/2020 at 14:13

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I did. Th ank you. I’ll send a proper reply.

Crozier threw himself on the career grenade, IMO.

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 14:24

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No rush - wanted to be sure it went through, I think the photos were large files.  Take care!

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 14:51

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Royal Canadian Navy, or “the navy” my dad, and all his brothers and his sister.  One still in the service. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 04/07/2020 at 16:21

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Very excellent. Did Dad handle dadding well while he was also commanding a ship?

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 16:45

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That’s a long story but no, he didn’t handle captaining well either, was also relie ved of command, so 25 years in the navy didn’t end well.  I’ll never know the whole story.  He was, at the time the first sailor from the prairies to command a warship since the end of WW2, which he was quite proud of.  Commanded 2 MCDVs (maritime coastal defence vessels, brand new ones took them through sea trials and commisioning). 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 04/07/2020 at 17:10

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 That's a tough story. Is he doing okay in retirement? I'm assuming that he's retired...

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/07/2020 at 17:28

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He did get a teaching degree after but was just broken, the navy was the true love of his life, he died about 8 years later. I’ve got his cap and medals proudly displayed. We buried him in a cask of Jolly Jack Pusser’s Rum (supplier of rum to the British navy for generations, with some very ornate, fancy bottles ) with the rest of his ashes sent to the 3 oceans that surround Canada. I don’t talk about it much, but whatever the reason, being relie ved of command is something I’ve seen completely destroy a guy.  I hope Capt. Crozier comes out of this O.K. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 04/07/2020 at 18:11

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 Thank you for sharing that. I hope that in Captain crozier's case, he knew what he was getting into and made a conscious choice. I suspect he must have known that he'd get the sack.