Good Morning, Oppo

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 03/19/2020 at 09:11 • Filed to: good morning oppo

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Intersting truck.

My wife said to me this morning, “It’s only Thursday of real S pring B reak.” Yup. We still have two more weeks of Corona Break. At least. 

HoustonRunner > ttyymmnn 03/19/2020 at 09:48

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Said the same to my wife last night. My kids (9 year old twin boys, 11 and 13 year old girls) have actually been pretty good so far. But we are letting them have spring break this week , next week we will attempt to make them do school type  work. My wife and I are both working from home (we have office jobs that allow that fairly easily), but managing them and work will be a challenge.

ttyymmnn > HoustonRunner 03/19/2020 at 09:52

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My wife has been working most of this week. She’s off tomorrow, but will likely be back FT on Monday. I’m staying home with them (not working, because I’m a musician and none of us are working now) and I’m sort of waiting to see what the district offers up next week. They will definitely be doing whatever school work is assigned, but I’m not smart enough to teach them myself. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 03/19/2020 at 10:05

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Send them to the garage.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 03/19/2020 at 10:07

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You should come out here sometime and we visit the Castle Air Force Museum. They have a Vulcan and a B-36.

Nibby > ttyymmnn 03/19/2020 at 10:09

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ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/19/2020 at 10:12

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I’d love to. Still waiting to see if we travel to CA at all in June. BTW, you are welcome to join us at Cars Land. The ride is awesome. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 03/19/2020 at 10:15

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If you want to come to the Bay Area, no other family present, boyos in the trailer, Mr. and Mrs. Ttyymmnn on the foo-tawn in the spare bedroom...

I think Castle AFB Museum deserves a quirky special status.

facw > Nibby 03/19/2020 at 10:17

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Damn it Nibby! Here I am trying to tell them not to use unsupported versions of macOS, and here you are with your Windows 95! 

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ttyymmnn 03/19/2020 at 10:22

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The truck is similar to an IH Sightliner, in that it’s clearly a COE adapted from a related “normal” cab, with windows added where convenient.

Similar also to what was called a “Crackerbox”, a GMC

...but both started production later than the truck in the photo, and the most iconic Ford COE, the C-series hadn’t started yet either. Nor does it appear to be a normal White Freightliner, that I can tell.

Nor is it a Kenworth, which current entries looked like this (a “bullnose”)

Not a Peterblit as far as I can tell, or other options I’ve thought of.

Its most striking feature is actually not what you’d expect - it’s that it has a one-piece windshield. While it’s hard to tell if it’s curved, a one-piece windshield may imply that it’s an odd custom for one of the big players, was made after ‘54 at the least, or might be a coach job by one of the smaller players built out of a contemporary standard cab. And yet, the windshield doesn’t wrap around at the corners.

It actually may be a custom job made *out of* a normal line White or similar .

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > ttyymmnn 03/19/2020 at 10:26

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I love the “we just took our normal “ cab back” cab and stuck it on top of the engine to make a cab   over” look

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/19/2020 at 10:27

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Plans are for Disneyland and Mrs. Ttyymmnn’s family reunion in Santa Barbara . I’m not holding my breath for any of it.

ttyymmnn > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/19/2020 at 10:31

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Thanks for all the info! The funky lower windows and square radiator really point towards the Sightliner. But it’s really more of a short modified flatbed hauling a trailer than a straight up cab.

*Spock fascinating gif*

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 03/19/2020 at 10:31

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Right. Invite stands though.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/19/2020 at 10:33

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Nibby > facw 03/19/2020 at 10:38

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facw > Nibby 03/19/2020 at 10:50

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At least let them have 98SE!

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ttyymmnn 03/19/2020 at 10:59

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It’s a great deal like a Sightliner, without actually being one. That’s what makes it so odd. It was somehow made in the tiny window between the availability of single-piece safety glass and the trend of wrap-around windshields catching up on trucks, in the window between normal snub-nose COEs being common and purpose-built COE cabs becoming normal, and in the very brief window in which thigh-height windows were considered a good idea for yard trucks. The Sightliners are absurdly rare - how rare would this thing be if it still exists?

The conformation of the cab and the fenders lines up somewhat with some relatively uncommon Internationals - but I don’t think it is.

I think something like this is probably the source, though. A cut-down “tall” style COE with the normal cab moved up.

ttyymmnn > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/19/2020 at 11:29

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I googled “Convoy Company” and found this .

“Convoy Company built the trucks special using the Ford cab in their own shops. The picture you have is of the origional configuration. Here is another picture of the same truck.”

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ttyymmnn 03/19/2020 at 11:38

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I had finally come to the “operating guess” that they were ca. ‘52 Fords originally, based on the upper door hinges and windshield/window shape , but I had some lingering doubts as that meant that they’d have had to make new door skins, altered the frames, and engage in some interesting coachwork for the fenders. Shouldn’t have surprised me, though, since I’ve rebuilt and altered doors a time or two myself.

Pickup_man > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/19/2020 at 11:57

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I agree with your assessment that it’s a Ford. That is %100 the ‘48-’52 cab. I’d bet they started with the regular truck cab however and not a cab-over. The standard truck cabs had flat bottom doors, and the sheet metal underneath where the front fender overlaps is flat. This would eliminate all of your doubts about altering doors.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Pickup_man 03/19/2020 at 12:03

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D’oh! Yeah, I was thinking even the heavy trucks had some door cutaway, but the regular pickups, certainly not. Honestly, I’m a little surprised they didn’t burglarize/rework the front fenders while they were at it, since the final shape of what they made was pretty close.

Pickup_man > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 03/19/2020 at 12:15

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Yep, all non cab-over trucks shared the same cab.

I’m a little surprised they didn’t take the fenders as well. The top surface of the regular truck fenders is pretty flat, it wouldn’t have been very hard to make them work. The cab over models also had wider grills which would have worked well on the heavy trucks. 

Nibby > facw 03/19/2020 at 12:46

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NO