Chart from the CDC: Flattening the Curve of Contagion

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura) 03/12/2020 at 12:21 • Filed to: None

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Now, Vox   might be probably is another hysterical, liberal news source. But this chart from the CDC makes a lot of sense.

Just Jeepin' > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 12:27

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https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/fhgfsb/one_of_the_best_responses_to_a_corona_wont_kill/fkb89o4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

In another day or two I’m simply going to have to disconnect from the news.

TorqueToYield > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 12:31

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It’s already too late.

Prepare to shelter in place and care for the very sick if you have other people in your household.

Call your parents and grandparents if you still have them and tell them you love them.

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 12:33

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But it’s all a hoax!

I wonder if the Russian asset shorted the market a few weeks ago.

Travel ban for non-US citizens/residents has Miller written all over it.

fintail > Just Jeepin' 03/12/2020 at 12:34

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And that’s in a somewhat mature/developed nation with universal healthcare.  Imagine what it could do in Murka where boostraps and freedumb reign, and many have nothing.

Thomas Donohue > Just Jeepin' 03/12/2020 at 12:34

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That was comforting....

/s

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 12:40

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“You’re young, you won’t be killed by this virus, only people who are 50+ die from it” is a pretty selfish response. Even though it seems true, I don’t want to spread it to someone who can die from it. Why have pointless deaths when preventative measures aren’t even that challenging?

Spanfeller is a twat > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 12:40

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Mexicans are starting to question how honest the government data is cus officially we have twelve cases, even though the nations that border us have a lot more...

Textured Soy Protein > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 12:44

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Yeah, those hysterical liberals and their pesky facts and figures.

facw > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 03/12/2020 at 12:46

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Also, the young do die. Not as many as the old, but spread across hundreds of millions of Americans, you are still going to have hundreds of thousands of deaths.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 12:47

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Don’t worry – we don’t need to ramp up testing and isolate people. That will hurt the economy too much, this isn’t anything a good old tax cut can’t solve!

/S

Edit - some comforting reading (not) -  https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/coronavirus-uk-doctor-nhs-hospital-symptoms-italy-china-a9397736.html

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > TorqueToYield 03/12/2020 at 12:47

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This chart from a Business Insider article shows why it should be taken seriously. It really affects older people

South Korea also has a better healthcare system than the US. If you’re young, sure this probably isn’t going to affect you, but for anyone over the age of 70 they are facing at least a 1 in 25 chance that they die from this if they get it.

Would you risk your life on a 1 in 25 chance?

jimz > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 03/12/2020 at 12:51

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this, exactly.  If I start to feel sick, I’m shutting in.  I’d probably call my Dr. office w/ my symptoms and ask for advice.  But I wouldn’t be going anywhere near my parents for a while given my dad has pretty much every risk factor for severe complications. 

jimz > fintail 03/12/2020 at 12:53

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no, the hoax is that the Dems and China are in cahoots to make Trump look bad. We had some local events canceled due to this (recommendation from the state gov to not hold gatherings of more than 200 people or so.)  Old fucks on FB are like “thanks Governor Shitforbrains!”  like it’s the governor’s fault.   All I could think is “I hope you contract this disease, ‘cos it’s going to teach you a lesson.”

fintail > jimz 03/12/2020 at 12:54

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I’m going to refrain from visiting my 93 year old grandma for awhile, I think. Don’t want to risk it.

VincentMalamute-Kim > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 03/12/2020 at 12:56

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You’re young, you won’t be killed by this virus,

True. Even though COVID19 has a higher mortality rate than the flue, neither is likely to kill you.

But I don’t want to be miserable for a few weeks.  From either one.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > fintail 03/12/2020 at 12:58

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No, only the reaction  is a hoax. Don’t you pay attention to what the administration puts out?

VincentMalamute-Kim > jimz 03/12/2020 at 12:58

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That’s exactly what you should do s ince there’s no specific treatment for the virus. As long as you’re breathing OK.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 03/12/2020 at 13:00

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That’s where surgical masks are helpful, to keep your goobers in. Wash your hands, don’t shake hands, and unless you are in the throes of fever and cough, you can mitigate much of the risk.

VincentMalamute-Kim > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/12/2020 at 13:01

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Exactly. 1 in 25 is not a big deal if it means you’re going to be sick for a week. 1 in 25 chance of dying is a huge risk.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz 03/12/2020 at 13:01

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Same. Seeing other people doesn’t have to mean you’re putting them at risk, but moving in crowded places, if it ain’t necessary, nope.

fintail > jimz 03/12/2020 at 13:02

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The governor here has banned events with 250+ people, and the wingnuts, especially in areas that economically benefit from more progressive locales, are losing their shit. I’ll admit I’ve had similar hopes for them, that it impacts them personally.

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 13:02

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The travel ban idea does seem like a hoax, can’t be real.

facw > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 03/12/2020 at 13:03

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South Korea also has some of the lowest fatality rates we are seeing. Overall they are roughly at 0.8% compared to 6.6% for Italy (Iran is probably higher still) , and a WHO estimate of 3.4% for the disease as a whole. So yeah, scale those numbers up for countries with worse healthcare than South Korea, which for the average person, probably  includes the US.

facw > Spanfeller is a twat 03/12/2020 at 13:04

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Aren’t you glad we built such a big beautiful wall to protect you...

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > VincentMalamute-Kim 03/12/2020 at 13:05

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The “young = safe” mentality is also dangerous. Most of the highly correlated commodities don’t outwardly present symptoms. I know many young people who have conditions that present a serious and potentially lethal complication to recovery from coronavirus. Diabetes, Asthma, IBD, any condition that puts a constant load on your immune system will become significantly more serious with this.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 13:08

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This is absolutely true. Non-medical people are not aware of how limited our medical capacity is. A few big accidents and ER’s start ‘diverting’. We don’t have the China ability of building new hospitals in a few weeks.

M y former hospital advertised bed capacity was m aybe 600 beds? That does not mean we could handle 6 00 patients. We were staffed for 120-150 beds. Much more than that and we started diverting.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Spanfeller is a twat 03/12/2020 at 13:10

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Also, we haven’t heard of any cases from Russia and I am not assuming they have been spared.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Textured Soy Protein 03/12/2020 at 13:10

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Truthfully: I’m just trying to share helpful information with people I care about and be intellectually honest about the sources.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 13:12

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That should be a helpful graphic for some.

Not gonna lie, I really thought it was being blown out of proportion at first, but it’s looking serious. Then again, I know when I’ve fucked up and can admit it. I fucked up.

Even our workplace is currently evaluating our systems to see if they can handle a sudden surge of teleworkers... the virus hasn’t really hit hard yet in Canada but confirmed cases are popping up.

I still have flights to Japan for mid-April, but it’s looking like a cancellation at this point whether it’s initiated by me or the government.

I’m not panicking, but the severity of the situation feels like it’s many times worse than a month ago where I felt confident about flying to Japan.

ttyymmnn > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 03/12/2020 at 13:15

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I’m 50+. 

VincentMalamute-Kim > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 03/12/2020 at 13:15

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“commodities” instead of “comorbidities” made me smile. You’re otherwise absolutely correct. I like the Routan.

Textured Soy Protein > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 13:16

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Vox may have an admitted liberal editorial slant but they are hardly “hysterical.” In spite of the slant to their political coverage, the underlying idea of the site is to provide as much truthful, factual information as possible. Like, for example, this chart from the CDC. 

ttyymmnn > facw 03/12/2020 at 13:16

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Think about how those billions could be used now. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 03/12/2020 at 13:16

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And interfere with President Trump’s reelection, some are saying.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 03/12/2020 at 13:16

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Well, that’s  sobering.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim 03/12/2020 at 13:18

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That’s a compelling factoid, bed capacity versus beds staffed for.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 13:22

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A relative works in hospital administration and they are trying to figure out how to keep all administrative staff physically separate from the medical staff because they can’t function properly if too many of them have to be quarantined. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > gin-san - shitpost specialist 03/12/2020 at 13:23

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You post with integrity, Sir. As far as I know, we still do not have our president putting out the message that this is serious and we need to slow the advance. I bought my TP at the onset, and also got some zinc loz enges before they disappeared. I private academic coaching and if the schools close, I see no reason not to continue seeing my clients so long as we have thorough handwashing and surface disinfecting and not breathing close to each other. Just some basic hyg ie ne practices mitigate much of the risk.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Textured Soy Protein 03/12/2020 at 13:24

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Based upon what you’ve just written, I will add them to my short list of sources. Thank you for that.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 13:28

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The not touching my face part is a little worrying... I didn’t really think about how much I touch my face until I did this to myself:

...in my line of work, there are a lot of facepalm situations. Fuck.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Just Jeepin' 03/12/2020 at 13:29

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Interesting that Italy’s death rate is almost twice that of China. And S. Korea’s fast response with hundreds of thousands of testing is less than that of China.

I wonder how we’re going to end up with our schizophrenic response. Local governments and rational people trying to take this seriously and the Federal govt and hoaxers saying this is just to get Trump impeached.

Textured Soy Protein > gin-san - shitpost specialist 03/12/2020 at 13:31

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My brother-in-law is a Delta flight attendant who works Detroit-Tokyo flights. We’re all worried as hell about him right now. 

AestheticsInMotion > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 13:39

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Just checked my sick hours accumulation. Four... Guess I can take a half day off! 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 13:48

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My trips to california were just canceled. I like others have stated am in a very low risk group but I do not want to be bringing this virus to a high risk group. We are going to do all of our meeting on SKYPE or Microsoft Teams from here on out. Can’t say I’m too disappointed , I will be able to go skiing more.

RacinBob > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 13:58

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The thing that got my attention was reading that the reproduction rate for Covid is estimated at 2.3. Influenza per the article is 1.3. Imagine a room with moustraps and pingpong balls and imagine the difference between one ball launching 1.3 balls versus 2,3 balls when started.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > VincentMalamute-Kim 03/12/2020 at 14:01

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Autocorrect strikes again...

The Routan is bad. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > ttyymmnn 03/12/2020 at 14:02

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Wait, so are my parents, that would sure suck

Textured Soy Protein > TorqueToYield 03/12/2020 at 14:03

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Here in Maryland the state just issued an order  that retirement homes, assisted living etc are all restricted to essential visitors only. There are some confirmed cases at a retirement community near me but they’re doing this to prevent it from being introduced to those vulnerable populations.

My 96 year old grandma is in another such facility a couple towns over and it’s unclear if any of us family members will be able to visit her. My dad checks in on her fairly regularly but I’m not sure he qualifies as “essential.” The governor is supposed to speak at 4 pm today hopefully with more details.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > gin-san - shitpost specialist 03/12/2020 at 14:06

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What’s your line of work? You’d think that as a teacher, slapping kids’ foreheads, I’d be transmitting a lot of viruses, right? But I always disinfect between slaps.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > AestheticsInMotion 03/12/2020 at 14:08

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No, a half day is 12 hours.

AestheticsInMotion > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 14:09

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For you maybe. I work 25/7!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 03/12/2020 at 14:09

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Same. If they close my school, I’m going to do some home repairs.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 14:21

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I deal in insurance, but I train people on how to do it properly. Guidelines, legalities, customer service, underwriting, accounting, but teaching this to front-line CSRs for our company. I do occasionally interact with customers, and it’s usually customers that are unreasonable, e.g.:

Client: what do you mean I don’t have insurance, that’s what I pay you guys for!

Me: That’s correct, sir! That’s why we provided you with insurance up until July last year when we stopped receiving payments from you! We even gave you a month to catch up on the payment!

Client: rabblerabblerabblerabble

Me: *Picard facepalm* *infects self*

Plus, I’ve seen how people wash hands in this office building (we share it with a few other companies)... it’s touching my own face that’s a concern. Unfortunately for HR reasons I can’t slap clients or CSRs.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RacinBob 03/12/2020 at 14:21

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That’s totally cool. Not the COVID part, but how the traps react. That first ball hits and takes out like four rows almost instantaneously. So if two balls dropped instead of one, it would build up more rapidly, but I think the model would hit the same maximum rate, only sooner.

This is a video and a comment for Ramblin’ Rover.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Textured Soy Protein 03/12/2020 at 14:24

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I hope he’s alright for everyone’s sake, it’s because of dummies like me who still want to go places that he still needs to work.

Then again, with US employers I’d wonder if he’d be worse off having no work/pay. I can see how others would be much more stressed than I am and have been.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 14:30

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Also president dined with a visitor from Brazilian delegation over the weekend that has now tested positive for the virus. Is HE getting tested? 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > gin-san - shitpost specialist 03/12/2020 at 14:35

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I worked in the insurance industry as an actuarial analyst for several years right out of college (at age 32 or so because military service first). I kept banging my forehead on the desk because it was so boring.

I do not want to change jobs with you.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 03/12/2020 at 14:36

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If HE is being tested, HE is certainly not going to tell us because HE is tougher than any ol’ virus.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 03/12/2020 at 14:52

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I’d be lying if I said my job was exciting, but I do enjoy it.

We get enough new hires that the experience is different with each group. The people at my work are generally good people, and I love the team that I work with.

It’s a good thing this company treats its people well.

Actuarial stuff is unknown to me but from what I've heard it would not be the kind of thing that I'd want to do. 

Derpwagon > Spanfeller is a twat 03/12/2020 at 15:03

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Are you sure they’re JUST NOW starting to question how honest the Mexican government is? Are you REALLY sure?