"Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom" (will-alib)
03/09/2020 at 09:58 • Filed to: None
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"Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom" (will-alib)
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Jim Spanfeller
> Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom
03/09/2020 at 10:05 |
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Not technically a restomod. T he proper term in this case is “abomination”.
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Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom
> Jim Spanfeller
03/09/2020 at 10:20 |
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LOL. Not a fan, eh?
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Jim Spanfeller
> Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom
03/09/2020 at 10:35 |
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It m ay be just my opinion, but I tend to rarely think converting classic cars to electric is a good thing. This particular case is, I think , a particularly ba d example because the rear-mounted air-cooled flat six is such a quintessential part of the classic 911's identity that removing it violates the very nature of what makes it a beloved classic car. You could argue that it makes the car objectively better, but it’s just not a classic 911 anymore. It’s so completely changed that it’s now a classic 911 in appearance only. In my mind, this car has been destroyed. Another casualty at the hands of electrification...
DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
> Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom
03/09/2020 at 10:47 |
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What I don’ t understand is how the range is only 120 miles when the range of a P85 the is 265 miles. Maybe they’re only using the motor from the P85 and a custom battery thats smaller?
kanadanmajava1
> Jim Spanfeller
03/09/2020 at 10:55 |
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But some people even like 912s with their original engine .
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Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom
> DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
03/09/2020 at 10:55 |
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That would be my assumption too. The Tesla batteries take up the entire floor, (designed that way) whereas the 911 probably only has room for a fraction of that.
Thomas Donohue
> Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom
03/09/2020 at 11:10 |
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FYI - you can enter that drawing without paying. You only get one entry, but hey, you only need one.
Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
03/09/2020 at 11:58 |
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Most of these swaps use the tesla motor and controller since that’s a sealed unit and is easily integrated into a subframe.
T hey’re probably using a homemade battery pack that is probably cells from a Volt
notsomethingstructural
> Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom
03/09/2020 at 12:04 |
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I really don’t like the Peterson Museum being described as “a cause”
Maxima Speed
> Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom
03/09/2020 at 12:38 |
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Heresy!
Jason Spears
> Jim Spanfeller
03/09/2020 at 14:16 |
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Agreed, there are companies redoing 911s right, this doesn’t look like one of them.
And WTF is this mess?
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kanadanmajava1
> Jason Spears
03/09/2020 at 14:58 |
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The battery stash?
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Jim Spanfeller
> kanadanmajava1
03/09/2020 at 15:07 |
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Well those are 912s ;)
My point is mainly that the rear engine layout with tho se air-cooled engines is one of the most iconic and quintessential parts of the car’s character, and without it, it’s not really a 911 (or 912, for that matter) anymore at all, but simply a Tesla dressed up in another car’s skin. At that point, it would probably be better to use something like a replica body. If all you really want is an electric car that looks like a Porsche, then there’s no need to cut up an original. Besides, a reproduction is probably cheaper anyway. An electric 356 speedster replica might actually be pretty cool, tbh.
BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
> DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back
03/09/2020 at 16:52 |
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Seems like a common plan is to use the Tesla rear axle motor unit, with either a few of the tesla modular battery units from a dis-assembled tesla battery pack, or various numbers of Chevy Volt modular battery packs, and usually not nearly as many KwH, or weight of the 85-100 KwH capacity that the Model S has, which would probably weigh over 1000lbs.
a classic 911 like that would probably have some batteries between the motor/axle assembly and the rear seats where the transaxle formerly was, and possibly some in the FRUNK where the fuel tank formerly was... with the other electronics (DC-DC converter, charge/regen controller, inverter/motor controller, and electric accessory drives for brake, steering, cabin climate control, battery and motor thermal management, etc...)
Frankly, this is kind of what I have in mind for a Ferrari Mondial coupe, rather than a classic Porsche 911.
The Mondial is not nearly as well loved as a Porsche 911 is, nor among Ferraristi in general , and is often criticized for being the slowest and least valuable Ferrari, and barely a Ferrari at all (shouldn’t it still be a Dino? ;-) ) and having trouble with maintenance and repairs costing more than the significantly depreciated value of the car.
Electric drivetrain would make it WAY, WAY faster, and much less repair and maintenance prone... but it wouldn’t wail like a Ferrari V8 unless it generated fake sounds.
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BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
> Jason Spears
03/09/2020 at 16:56 |
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Those are probably either coolant lines (batteries, motors, and possibly inverters tend to be liquid cooled anymore) or high-current cables... but I would think it would be a vulnerable place for high current cabling, which also is conventionally covered in b right o range outer insulation.