How much does gas cost where you live?

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 03/04/2020 at 11:33 • Filed to: None

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This is pretty crazy. The Speedy Stop market around the corner from me is now $1.97, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen it under $2.00. A buddy said he saw a Quik Trip selling gas  for $1.80. I can only figure that with the drop in air and car travel, there is a glut of fuel on the market. Time to go on a road trip!

Chariotoflove > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:42

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$2.03 at the nearby QuikTrip. It got down to $1.93 a while back. 

ttyymmnn > Chariotoflove 03/04/2020 at 11:42

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Still stupid cheap. I suppose we have to thank the frackers.

phenotyp > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:42

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I noticed really low numbers on Airport Blvd this morning. Like, the numbers stood out as low.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:43

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About $3.15. There’s a peculiar formulation for the Bay Area that raises the price. Still, I’d expect maybe $2.70 outside the Bay Area.

Chariotoflove > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:44

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The Perot museum here has a really good exhibit explaining the science and engineering behind fracking. It’s really cool. 

412GTI > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:44

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Pa is always stupid expensive. A little better than before..but $2.63 for regular and over $3 for me with Premium. 

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:44

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Being right next to refineries is kind of cheat ing though.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:45

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Washington State.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:45

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Just filled here in Santa Barbara this AM. $3.85 a gallon at the “generic brand” station.

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Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:46

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Still about $2.09 here, at best. $1.90 at a branded, top-tier station is amazing

And those are the pumps where you pull up and see that 93 octane is $2.99, but it’s not listed on the big sign :)

I don’t know when the premium gouging started, but I’m sick of it.

Tripper > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:47

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2.59 is the cheapest near me

MrDakka > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:47

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Double those prices and that's what you're paying in SoCal

HammerheadFistpunch > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:49

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sony1492 > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:50

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$3.79 for regular, very close to $4 for 91

ClassicDatsunDebate > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:50

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$3.96 US/Gal here in V ancouver.  Thanks Socialism! 

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Chariotoflove 03/04/2020 at 11:52

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It’s also the reason natural gas prices are so stable— and we now have centuries of supply again.

I always kind of giggle when I hear the Tesla Cult Guys talk about how coal is going away.... but then they   leave out that the fastest growing electrical supply in the US is new Compound Cycle Natural Gas Power Plants. Fracking has made natural gas the largest, most reliable and fastest growing supply source. The guys charging their cars in the evening or at night? At least on the coasts it’s pretty likely they are charging on fracked natural gas and don’t realize it.

Double Bonus Round of Irony? The Koch Brothers (via their subsidiaries) absolutely dominate the pipelines and distribution of natural gas in North America. Every time you charge your EV in the evening? The Koch Boys get a little richer. Weird, huh?

PowderHound > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:52

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It appears $2.53 for regular and $2.83 for premium. I haven’t bought gas in over a month though

BigBlock440 > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:56

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I find it hard to believe that you’ve never seen it under $2, unless it’s a fairly recent station. It should have been there most recently in 2016 when the national average was ~$1.75

ttyymmnn > Ash78, voting early and often 03/04/2020 at 11:56

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Do you agree that we are dealing with a glut? Otherwise, I would think prices would be up with the virus fears and people filling/stocking up. Most people seem to be putting their money into toilet paper and hand sanitizer tho. 

ttyymmnn > BigBlock440 03/04/2020 at 11:57

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The neighborhood station is always more, but you may be right. I’ve slept since 2016, and often forget what I had for breakfast. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 11:59

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Today I am focused on the cost of electricity . We transitioned to full hydro (electric) heat including hot water and JESUS. $10 a day...

ttyymmnn > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 12:02

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Damn. 

Nom De Plume > Chariotoflove 03/04/2020 at 12:02

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I nearly posted something you would’ve enjoyed greatly and landed me in the stocks.  

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:04

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Right? How much worse will it get if I buy an electric car??

Long_Voyager94 > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:04

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$2.19-2.42 for regular here.

I think I’ve only seen ours drop under $2 maybe 4 times in the last 4-5 years.

Nom De Plume > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/04/2020 at 12:04

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One would go hoarse before even touching the tip of such blind odyssey’s.  

Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:06

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Not really, but here’s why:

1. When commodity prices tank, they tend to all move together. The underlying fear is usually future demand, not necessarily a glut in supply. But with OPEC, all rules about supply and demand don’t matter as much.

That brings me to the second point:

2. Gasoline (like pork bellies or soybeans, and unlike toilet paper or sanitizer ) is complicated and expensive to store in large quantities, whether you’re a big company or just a consumer. If we could do that, you’d probably see the price gouging you’re referring . Most gas price gouging is done for short-term local events, in part to help preserve some of the station’s inventory (not just to be jerks).

Aremmes > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:07

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Around $2.449 at the BJ’s near my house, which tends to pull nearby stations’ prices down. Our fuel taxes are not even that high in Pennsylvania; instead, it's an effect of living near the wealthiest parts of the state.

gmctavish needs more space > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 12:07

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Holy shit. My significant others parents Vancouver Special-ish 90s box is all baseboard heating...I can’t imagine what their hydro bill is.

On the other hand, my friend recently had to replace his 6 year old furnace, that cost 6 or 8 grand, and that was wholesale pricing through an HVAC friend

This is why I want solar panels, and a wood pellet stove....

Jesus Arias > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/04/2020 at 12:08

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Oh yeah here in California is expensive as hell. And I daily drive a V8 so I spend a lot on gas.

Wacko > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:09

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1. 19 4/litre That’s Canadian

But

1. 19 4 x 3.785 = 4.52$ cnd per gallon x .75 exchange rate

So about 3.39$ usd per gallon

arl > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:10

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$3.80 for premium. DC area. 

ClassicDatsunDebate > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 12:10

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What tha? We’ve got a gas furnace and we pay ~100/mo for gas.  We were paying ~$70/mo for Hydro but since we put in a hot tub last summer, we’re at ~$100/mo for electricity.  I can’t believe you used 3500kW in a month....something must be wrong.  There is no way.

EL_ULY > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:11

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daggum water bill is what kills me. I use $23 in water but pay like $120 in fees/taxes. 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > gmctavish needs more space 03/04/2020 at 12:11

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I miss my natural gas already.

TBH, this is our first bill. I think we may need to adjust how we use our baseboards and maybe cut down on shower length.

This place is nearly 50% bigger than our last as well and has a lot more “smart” features which can’t help.

Just another day in BC.  Getting the shit kicked out of you by the cost of living

Snuze: Needs another Swede > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:12

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I filled the Volvo up on Sunday and it was $2.47 /gal at the 7-11. Today it’s $2.56, so it’s gone up a bit. But I’m seeing prices in my area between $2.36 to 2.56.

Jesus Arias > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:12

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Cheapest around here is about 2.9 0 for regular at a generic gas station. But I always fill up at chevron so its a little more expensive .

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > ClassicDatsunDebate 03/04/2020 at 12:12

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yeah, something is up.

ClassicDatsunDebate > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 12:16

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Yeah, you’ve got to get them to look into it. Any ‘ funky’ smells from the neighbors unit??

Sovande > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:17

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I paid $3.47 per gallon for premium the other day. Which seems like plenty of money when y ou need 16 gallons of it.

Tekamul > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:18

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$2.60 for 87 at the fill up today.

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:18

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I’m paying $2.75-$2.90 for 93 octane in Minneapolis. Highest I’ve ever paid (2010ish) was $4.25 so I’m not complaining!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > ClassicDatsunDebate 03/04/2020 at 12:19

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nope

BigBlock440 > ClassicDatsunDebate 03/04/2020 at 12:26

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Electric heat isn’t cheap, at least not compared to fossil fuels’ current costs.

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:26

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The year I delivered pizza in Champaign Illinois  it got as low as $0.69. That would have been the spring of 1986, I think.  

ttyymmnn > WilliamsSW 03/04/2020 at 12:28

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I recall paying sub-$1 in VA at that  time. Put $5 in my dad’s Rabbit and drive all night. The days, those were.

RallyWrench > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:34

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I paid $3.79 for Regular last night... *rolls eyes*

ClassicDatsunDebate > BigBlock440 03/04/2020 at 12:35

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Oh I know. Still, I’m comparing CoFL to my costs. We’re around the corner from each other and I’ll guess similar square footage. I used 1/3 of the kW that he’s shown to have used...and although I dont have electric heat, I have a 7 HP pump and heater running for quite a few hours a day.  

duurtlang > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:40

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It’s about 1.35.

In Euros. Per liter. So about $ 5.68 US per US gallon.

From my perspective that’s quite cheap actually. I’m used to higher prices.

Hamtractor > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:42

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I paid $2.97 yesterday here in Phoenix:(

Long_Voyager94 > BigBlock440 03/04/2020 at 12:43

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I think we’ve seen under $2 all of maybe 5 times in the last 5 years. We’re still at $2.19+ currently.

facw > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:44

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I usually go to the Shell that’s third on the list:

This one is closest to me though, and shockingly, I don’t go there (except for annual inspections):

Cé hé sin > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:49

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About €1.45 per litre. Do your own conversions as needed.

Cé hé sin > duurtlang 03/04/2020 at 12:51

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That’s cheap. Filled up at €1.399 last week and glad to find it as €1.45 is more usual.

RPM esq. > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:52

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It was like $ 3.50 for premium when I filled up last week.

fintail > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 12:54

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That’s insane.

I have little square footage, am full electric, but average around $40 USD/month. Somehow it actually goes down in the summer when I use AC, even though I almost never use heat in the winter.

I suspect some here have it similar though.  My mom lives in a small town with a questionably managed PUD, also full electric.  It has a $40 USD fee on every bill before usage is added.  She averages $150-200 for a <2000 sq ft house.

KnowsAboutCars > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:54

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My go to station was 1,489 euro/litre for 95 octane (91 octane for US) couple days ago so $6.28/gallon. That’s on the cheaper side.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:55

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its been worse here....this is per liter tho

fintail > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 12:57

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Costco PUG is at $3.16 per gasbuddy, same for Safeway.  The Chevron I patronize when not using Costco is at $3.65 for PUG - high gas taxes and general cost of living here.

duurtlang > Cé hé sin 03/04/2020 at 12:57

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Exactly.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > fintail 03/04/2020 at 13:04

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Yikes.  I suspect this is the “new normal” but we will see what we can do to lower it.  

nerd_racing > WilliamsSW 03/04/2020 at 13:15

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a year before I was born! 

fintail > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 13:15

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That’s like a car payment. I’d be a little livid.

One reason of a few I am OK with living in a shoebox - low carrying costs.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 13:19

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What about that $50 I lent you last week?

E90M3 > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 13:27

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Pretty sure everywhere was under $2 in Texas back in early 2016. I know diesel was right ar ound $1.50 a gallon.

ttyymmnn > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/04/2020 at 13:29

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I do remember that .

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 13:33

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It was the best possible time to be delivering Garcia’s pizza in a 1972 Monte Carlo.  

WilliamsSW > nerd_racing 03/04/2020 at 13:34

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Shush you ! 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > fintail 03/04/2020 at 13:34

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It’s like, over double the payment on my Kia

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 13:42

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Is that a 1?? I’m generally happy to be paying less than 4 per gallon. I think it was 3.43 for 91 when I filled up at costco yesterday.

At first I assumed your price must be in liters. 

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 13:44

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I don't need heat all that often but my primary source of heat is a wood burning stove. Nice to have free heat from random wood picked up off the ground! My electricity cost is also flat rate so no matter how much is used, my rent doesn't change. 

ttyymmnn > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 03/04/2020 at 13:58

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Nope US American dollars per US gallon.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > ClassicDatsunDebate 03/04/2020 at 13:58

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in AZ most people run A/C continually from about late Feb to early November, barring weird weather patterns. I had a really inefficient unit before I replaced it, and my electricity bill was usually in the high 400s, and it breached $500 in a month before I replaced it.

It’s a little saner now, but it’s completely possible to take an average sized house with electric everything and blow through lots of kWh in a month. 

DipodomysDeserti > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 14:04

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How old are you? I’m thirty-three and remember buying gas for $1.50, and am not located in Texas.

I got my license in 2003. At the time, gas had just spiked to $1.50/gal, and everyone was upset about how expensive it was, and how I wouldn’t get enjoy low gas prices like in the ‘90s.

Now we we think it’s crazy when gas is just under $2/gal.

BigBlock440 > ClassicDatsunDebate 03/04/2020 at 14:36

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I have electric baseboard, and average around the same, even keeping the house at 60. Sure you could insulate better, but there’s no comparison to the energy per dollar of fossil fuels. I put a heat pump in my basement as an experiment since I didn’t have any experience with them prior, I’m now heating an additional ~ 800 square feet, for a few dollars less than before I put it in in January. Heating the airspace uses a ton of energy, every 6 feet of electric baseboard is the equivalent of one 1500w   space heater. Your 7 hp pump is the equivalent of 2-3 rooms of electric baseboard, for comparison.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 14:44

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Last I filled up, it was $1.059/L.

ClassicDatsunDebate > BigBlock440 03/04/2020 at 14:44

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yeah, plus the hottub heater, not sure the wattage.

We used to have baseboard heat but don’ t remember it being so expensive. I guess CoFL needs to buy a sweater :)

BaconSandwich is tasty. > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 14:45

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Crikey. How many kWh are you using in a month?!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > BaconSandwich is tasty. 03/04/2020 at 14:49

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2200-2300 apparently.  This is our first bill for this house.

hillrat > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 14:53

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$2.40-ish here in DC. 

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 14:54

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When I filled up recently, it was for CAD$1/Liter.

And that translates to about US$2.80/US gallon.

beautimouse > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 14:54

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The two places I fill up on a regular basis...

Southern California:

North East:

Both are regular.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 14:57

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That's.... a lot. I averaged ours out, and we use about 450 kWh a month, but we also have natural gas heating.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 14:58

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Why did you switch to electric heat with natural gas being so cheap? Heating with natural gas would cost about half that or less.

If you want to use electric heat and keep the cost reasonable, upgrade the insulation in your house (if you haven’t already done so) and get a grid-tied solar system.

nerd_racing > WilliamsSW 03/04/2020 at 14:59

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Damn Millennial! (am I lol) 

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 15:03

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“How much worse will it get if I buy an electric car??”

It depends on how much you drive. If you have something like a Tesla, if the pack is very low, fully charging it overnight will cost you between $5-$10 for every 300-400km you drive.

If you drive 2000km/month, it will add maybe $30-$40 per month to your electricity bill. But it would be a net savings because that will likely be 1/5 or less of what you would have spent on gasoline.

It should be noted that gas furnaces are far more efficient than gasoline cars.

That’s why it makes sense to replace a gasoline car with a BEV, but it doesn’t make as much sense to replace a gas furnace with electric heat.

WilliamsSW > nerd_racing 03/04/2020 at 15:04

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GET OFF MY LAWN YOU YOUNG WHIPPERSNAPPER!

nerd_racing > WilliamsSW 03/04/2020 at 15:05

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YOU’RE NOT MY REAL DAD!! 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 03/04/2020 at 15:33

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New house (townhouse) no gas option

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > ttyymmnn 03/04/2020 at 15:41

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Around $1.08 CAD a Liter here or so at the moment?

WilliamsSW > nerd_racing 03/04/2020 at 15:49

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THATS IT!  GO TO YOUR ROOM NOW

ttyymmnn > DipodomysDeserti 03/04/2020 at 15:59

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I’m 53 and have lived in Austin for about  25 years. I should have said “under $2 at that station .”

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 16:07

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Ah... I see.  Are you allowed to put solar panels on your roof?

sony1492 > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/04/2020 at 16:15

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Ive seen $5 a gallon in Ca

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > sony1492 03/04/2020 at 16:27

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Yeah, I thought we’d get there again, but it has moderated a bit with the decreases across the country.

Chariotoflove > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/04/2020 at 16:43

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Yeah, the circle of life is a lot harder to opt out of than just buying a shiny new gizmo to drive through the Starbucks line.

I’m a big fan of renewables, and I think that learning to make better use of our fossil fuel sources ultimately buys us time to improve our technology. It also diversifies our power options.

Chariotoflove > Nom De Plume 03/04/2020 at 16:43

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That would have to be pretty flammable.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 03/04/2020 at 16:49

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I didn't realize it was quite this low, and I live in a large town

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 03/04/2020 at 16:51

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This is really cheap considering I live in a large suburb of Atlanta. I may claim the prize of cheapest gas close to a large city

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/04/2020 at 16:56

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We can beat that...

However, we only use about 6 kWh per day AND we have grid connected solar panels ...