CVPI TMPS

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura) 02/28/2020 at 15:16 • Filed to: None

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I ordered a set of (supposedly) Genuine Ford OEM tire pressure sensors for Crappy Vic. I’ve been led to understand that getting the car to recognize these is a lesser task that doesn’t need some kind of super-duper interface machine. Is this something I can take care of myself with a modest tool? ( Yes , I realize that the tire has to be dismounted in order to access these... My buddy has a tire machine ...)

Wacko > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/28/2020 at 15:25

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I would hope and guess that if it’s the correct part the sensors should just detect them and where they are while rolling. 

notsomethingstructural > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/28/2020 at 15:36

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Some cars will recognize sensors on their own, some need to be programmed. The ones that need programming can get kicked into learn mode through an Autel tool (at least Autel is the cheapest ones I’ve seen). Some cars have a TPMS service port near the OBD area where you have to do “a procedure” to force it to learn mode (like programming a key) . It is not on the OBD connector itself. I know in my G35 it was basically just a loose wire with a single-pin connector. The “learn procedure” was short the pin to ground while the key was in accessory.

notsomethingstructural > notsomethingstructural 02/28/2020 at 15:38

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Oh, also check the date codes on the sensors when you get them if they’re in Ford packaging. A lot of sketchy vendors sell 10 year old TPMS units as new (because they weren’t used) but the internal batteries are already dead. The vendors (like Schrader) sell “aftermarket” sensors for considerably cheaper than OEM if you want to do some homework. Aftermarket Schrader units from RockAuto ended up being cheaper than refurb OEM sensors for me, and I didn’t have to wonder about the timestamp on those.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > notsomethingstructural 02/28/2020 at 15:42

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Thank you for those informations. The eBay seller asks me to make sure my car recognizes them before I install them.

Ash78, voting early and often > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/28/2020 at 15:45

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World: How the f*ck can I get rid of this stupid TPMS without setting off an alert every time I get in the car?

Rusty: Same question, but exactly the opposite.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Ash78, voting early and often 02/28/2020 at 16:02

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I’m having trouble interpreting your comment, but I think you are recognizing that I am actually trying to correct the problem. And do it correctly .

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/28/2020 at 16:05

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Could it be this Ford tool? It works on my 2017 Transit.

https://www.amazon.com/Motorcraft-TPMS19-Transmitter/dp/B001FKSNUI

Answered question says it works on a 2011 CV

facw > Ash78, voting early and often 02/28/2020 at 16:07

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I’m of the opinion that TPMS is a very good idea with a terrible implementation.

Would be nice to see some standards body have another go at it with the following goals:

User pairing

Per wheel readouts with actual pressures reported

Allow user to specify which wheel is which (or auto detect!)

Ideally user replaceable hardware (i.e. integrate with the stem on the outsider of the tire rather than on the inside)

Given that there are already screw on caps that can do all this, it really seems like something where car manufacturers could do something more robust.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim 02/28/2020 at 16:14

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This reply is why I posted the question, because I’d have had zero idea how to even begin looking for something like that.

Ash78, voting early and often > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/28/2020 at 16:31

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Wait, you’re not adding TPMS to a car that doesn’t have them? That’s how I read it...if so, my mistake.

I had no idea the Vic got such newfangled tech-wizardry before its retirement.

Ash78, voting early and often > facw 02/28/2020 at 16:32

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I always thought the low-tech solution that VAG uses (or previously did) was pretty nice...just measure wheel speed. An outage in one wheel likely points to a pressure i ssu e/mismatch . You know which wheel it is, but no RFID needed. And wheel speed is already measured and logged by the ECU.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/28/2020 at 17:11

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You’re welcome. When I bought it, I think the description did not include the Transit as being one of the Ford models that it worked on. Others on the Transit forum said it worked for them though.

I walk around to each tire and push the button when I switch winter/summer tires.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VincentMalamute-Kim 02/28/2020 at 17:19

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Helpful clue. 

The Snowman > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 02/28/2020 at 19:58

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You need a garage door remote looking thing to activate them and a special brake pedal key turn sequence to get the car in the right mode. Should take 1 minute but in reality it's impressive if you can do it under 30 minutes.