Electric Car Shopping

"CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever" (carsoffortlangley) 02/27/2020 at 16:28 • Filed to: None

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I genuinely forgot that the Electric Smart ForTwo was a thing. The pricing is great for what you get and it has suddenly moved into the running as my next commuter.

$20K Canadian for only 500miles on this one. Also, props to this dealer for putting some effort in on the photos!

That’s a great price, compared to some of the stuff I’ve seen for electric cars. It really appeals to me!

Update: HELLO YOU.

Brand new for $10K off MSRP?

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 16:32

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Fiat 500e.

or E golf.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 02/27/2020 at 16:34

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Those are pretty close in pricing to the Smart and the smarts are much newer with less mileage.  But yeah, those are in the running too

Chariotoflove > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 16:39

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I mean, I’ve never had one, so my opinion means nothing. That said, from all I’ve read, there are other cars that give you more oomph with more storage, greater comfort, and higher mpg for less or the same money. My understanding is that the only reason to buy one of these is if  you are especially in love with its unique cuteness enough to be willing to drive a penalty box.

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 16:50

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I know the 500e back seats are tiny, but its nice to have the extra 2 seats in a pinch. What do they go for used up there in a private sale ?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 02/27/2020 at 16:52

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Fiats seem to be around $15-19K depending on mileage (30,000km and down). I still think that the 500 is the best bet overall. I don’t want to spend extra after trading in my Forte.

Did you ever go forward with the Abarth decal with the lighting bolt tail? I’d 100% want that on mine

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 16:57

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Ouch, that’ s steep. They’re usually around 7-10K down here, granted US, not Canadian monies .

I need to get back to that decal. It’s sooo cool

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By 02/27/2020 at 17:01

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$10KUSD is like 13,500 here. Also cars typically cost more in Canada and more in Vancouver.

I still think I am really drawn to the 500, if I go through with it, we should go halfsies on decals

CompactLuxuryFan > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 17:06

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I’ve seen a 500e in Electric Blue near where I live where the owner installed wheels from the Sport trim regular 500 and it looks spectacular.

So this:

combined with this:

wpudvah: GTI, Super Beetle, now with more 80-Series > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 17:28

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From reading the comments it seems like the Fiat 500 is also on your list of potentials - having owned one and DD’d one for 2 years (2014 Abarth cabrio), I would possibly steer clear unless you find a fantastic deal. I basically bought it for the exhaust note (dumb) and loved that, but the cheap materials (ESPECIALLY on the interior, my god) and overall FCA quality was lacking.

I should mention - I bought it with 4000 miles and sold it at around 20000. Wayyyyy too many things were falling apart/wearing out for only 20000 miles. No catastrophic failures or expensive repairs, but small things that really started to annoy me. That said, it was fun to drive like a hoonigan and still average 26 MPG.

Upgraded to a 2016 6MT GTI Audobahn last year, and the difference is night and day.

DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 17:30

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Agreed! Halfsies it is

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > CompactLuxuryFan 02/27/2020 at 17:37

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Oh! Yes!

I am partial to the Orange that came on the 500e

Maybe with...white wheels?  Likely not.  I think your example is more realistic for wheel choice.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Chariotoflove 02/27/2020 at 17:41

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And if he wants to fit into tight parking spots that no other cars will fit into.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > wpudvah: GTI, Super Beetle, now with more 80-Series 02/27/2020 at 17:51

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An Egolf is a serious competitor. We have a mk7 Golf Wagon and I’d love an electric version of that.

Have there been mechanical issues with your Fiat?

Chariotoflove > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 02/27/2020 at 17:52

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Fair.  I don’t know how much of a problem that is for him on a daily basis.  Only he can say.

wpudvah: GTI, Super Beetle, now with more 80-Series > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 17:54

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Love an e-golf! Haven’t driven one or know anyone who has one (rare here in Minnesota), but would be a great package for a DD.

There was a small coolant leak as well as a small vacuum leak on the Abarth when I traded it in - nothing major (dealer didn’t even catch either on trade-in) , but still definitely annoying after only 20,000 miles.

Dat exhaust tho!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > wpudvah: GTI, Super Beetle, now with more 80-Series 02/27/2020 at 17:55

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Oh man, that exhaust . I nearly bought one twice

BaconSandwich is tasty. > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 18:05

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I thought the Smart ForTwo ED only had a range of 100 km or so?

wpudvah: GTI, Super Beetle, now with more 80-Series > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 18:07

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that’s how they get ya!!!

Also good luck with the job hunt - I’m 27 but have been laid off four separate times, now I’m at a great gig. Forward momentum and a positive attitude is the best advice I can give. It’ll happen!

His Stigness > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/27/2020 at 19:51

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COUGH e-GOLF. COUGH COUGH.

Also, FREE CHARGING:  https://insideevs.com/news/400839/electrify-canada-free-charging-egolf/

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > His Stigness 02/27/2020 at 19:54

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That’s for new though, Egolfs might be outside of the price range

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/28/2020 at 09:44

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No! No! No! These are crap! They’re constantly breaking. We’re putting software, batteries, and motors in them left and right.

Edit to add: I liked these a lot when they first came out. Genuinely seems like a nice little car. Previous gen was fun to drive, but crap inside, not unreliable. Figured this was the next step, and much nicer inside. It is much nicer inside and drives much better. But literally everything else is worse. Do not own one outside of warranty. Do not use one as an only car. Do not own one of you need to go more than 50 miles on a charge regularly. Even the warranty thing gives me pause, they're not covering everything on them. Lease for shortish commutes only.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Chariotoflove 02/28/2020 at 10:32

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Not too much of an issue, but what AMGtech has said pretty much has scratched this off the list

Chariotoflove > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/28/2020 at 10:37

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Holy crap. Yeah, that’s a no. 

His Stigness > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 02/28/2020 at 14:38

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Oh boo.

Does Canada (or provinces) offer huge incentives off new EVs like the US and California? 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > His Stigness 02/28/2020 at 14:48

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BC does, more than anyone else yeah.  Something I am looking into!