supposedly a comparison of Parsh 911 tyres for first model vs latest

"MonkeePuzzle" (monkeypuzzle) 02/20/2020 at 10:55 • Filed to: None

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and that’s kinda neat

Nom De Plume > MonkeePuzzle 02/20/2020 at 11:04

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Clear example of paved vs. unpaved roads. Wagon wheels weren’t narrow just because the horses had enough to pull already.

dogisbadob > MonkeePuzzle 02/20/2020 at 11:07

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cool

A Boy and His Longtail > MonkeePuzzle 02/20/2020 at 11:20

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I say we swap the wheels and see what happens

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > MonkeePuzzle 02/20/2020 at 11:22

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I am more interested in driving the car for which the narrower tire was designed, whatever the car.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Nom De Plume 02/20/2020 at 11:23

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Even on paved roads, I prefer a 70-series tire, generally, if for no other reason that ride comfort.

benjrblant > Nom De Plume 02/20/2020 at 11:35

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wait, w hat? You’re saying one of these tires is for unpaved roads? I’d highly question that porsche picked these tires in 1963 for unpaved roads. That tire looks quite comparable for any performance tire from the early 60's. If anything, I think the difference reflects more about rubber compounds, tire design, and vehicle power outputs over the last 57 years rather than paving differences.

Nom De Plume > benjrblant 02/20/2020 at 11:45

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Roads are many thousands of years old in Europe. Endless miles of smoothly paved asphalt were not present in any country in the 60's. You don’t appear to be aware the shape “roads” were in.

Much less how many have been built since.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MonkeePuzzle 02/20/2020 at 12:03

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That’s kind of neat meaty...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > A Boy and His Longtail 02/20/2020 at 12:05

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Fun.

Fun is what happens.

MonkeePuzzle > A Boy and His Longtail 02/20/2020 at 12:07

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glemon > MonkeePuzzle 02/20/2020 at 12:17

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The tire pictured is probably a 165/80-15. I have never driven a 911 on tirest skinny, but have driven lots of old sports cars with skinny tires. It is a blast, you can “dance” with the car, easily controlled 2 and four wheel drifts at lower than oh my God I am going to die speeds. I don’t have the guts or the skill s to do that on the big meats shown on the left.  TL/DR slow car fast

Thomas Donohue > MonkeePuzzle 02/20/2020 at 12:25

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I saw that yesterday with the caption “ 1970 911 vs 2020" or something like that.

More likely an early 356 tire (5 inches or ~ 135mm) tha n a 1965 (16 5/70HR-15) or a 1970 (185/70-15).

2020 Carrera’s start at  295 in the rear, but that thing looks like a 335 or larger.

Still cool either way.

benn454 > Nom De Plume 02/20/2020 at 12:44

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The Autobahn and the Eisenhower Interstate Highway System existed in 196 3 .

Nom De Plume > benn454 02/20/2020 at 13:30

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Yes. So some strips of pavement a few feet wide and a few miles long. Must have seemed amazingly freeing given the state of most other roads. Or not given their undulating surfaces compared to a perfectly smooth and well maintained dirt road.

Tekamul > benn454 02/20/2020 at 13:59

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I'm not agreeing with the presumption that the design above was for dirt, but in the 60s, about 45% or roads in the US were unpaved, and the majority of journeys included time on dirt. 

benn454 > Nom De Plume 02/20/2020 at 14:46

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 You've never been on the Autobahn, have you? It's one of the smoothest and best maintained road networks in the world. And they're obviously wider than a few feet and contain thousands of miles of pavement. Don't be intentionally obtuse. 

benn454 > Tekamul 02/20/2020 at 14:46

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 That's nice. Has nothing to do with what I was refuting, but okay.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > MonkeePuzzle 02/20/2020 at 15:20

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That pretty much sums up everything wrong with modern cars.

Too  big, too complicated, too expensive

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > glemon 02/20/2020 at 15:23

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I think this is part of the reason my old Galant VR-4 was more fun to drive. Not only was it smaller I. General. But it had little 195/60/15 tires vs my e90s 225/55/17.

It’s also why I sized down to a 215 for my winter tires 

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Tekamul 02/21/2020 at 00:30

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“but in the 60s, about 45% or roads in the US were unpaved”

thats kind of a useless stat for the country without a breakdown of where those unpaved roads were. i’m going to take a guess few first gen 911s were sold in N ebraska back then.