"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
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"Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)" (bman76-4)
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A heck of a read over on FP. This is the kind of tech bro galaxy brain thinking that we should be weary of:
I just can’t imagine how nasty the lawsuits are gonna be, because this seems straight up illegal.
MonkeePuzzle
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 17:01 |
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this is fine, God is planning the same thing during the rapture. Just gonna up and zap away all the drivers.
TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 17:04 |
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Fuck, I can’t wait for subscriptions to become a thing. /s
“Hey, do you want the car you just paid good money for to be able to
do certain things? That will be $100 a month, kthxbye.”
Notchback88
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 17:06 |
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Things like this has me looking at cars like an ‘06 GTO or ‘14 Mustang than a new, highly connected car.
(That and the wife’s theoretical car budget.)
RPM esq.
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 17:06 |
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I just can’t imagine how nasty the lawsuits are gonna be
I can.
For Sweden
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 17:11 |
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Wait until Boeing or Textron or E mbraer removes autopilot via an over-the-air update.
SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 17:12 |
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Oh, you KNOW Tesla is (they’re a software company, right?!?) gonna try hard to move a whole lot of functions to the “oh, all you own is a software license, which can’t be transferred” category.
There’s a lot of good reasons this company needs to die, but I’d start right here.
Can you imagine owning a classic 30-year old 560SL and having Benz take the position that your “radio”, “mirror control”, “trunk release” and glove box handle had been “de-featured”?
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 17:35 |
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Now is the wireless of our de-content made glorious Hummer
by this Musk of dor
k.
Snuze: Needs another Swede
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 17:40 |
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This is the kind of bullshit that turns me off to new cars, which in turn really disinterests me in hybrids, electric cars, etc . L ast night I was driving home in the 8 fiddy after grad school and beginning to accept my old man status as it was kind of nice having something with an automatic that I could just cruise in. And I started thinking that maybe when I replace the Cruze I will get a used Gen 2 Volt, or maybe even look into a Bolt or a Tesla 3.
Then I read something like then and I’m all like “NOPE. ” Between this and BMW charging subscription for CarPlay (I know they recanted, but mark my words, that’s just testing the waters and it will come back once most if not all manufactures agree with one another to do it ), I’m getting to the point where I have virtually ZERO interest in any new car.
Future next gen S2000 owner
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 17:41 |
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I’d be on a conference call with lawyers right now.
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 17:50 |
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And things like this are why I am worried about the EV future somewhat...
I’m not against EVs, but I am against EV makers being able to do this kind of shit whenever they want to....
SiennaMan
> RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
02/06/2020 at 18:03 |
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I'd say this is exactly where I am too.
slipperysallylikespenguins
> Snuze: Needs another Swede
02/06/2020 at 18:05 |
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This same thing is happening with tractors right now. John Deere can turn your quarter million dollar tractor into a paperweight with the push of a button.
promoted by the color red
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 18:09 |
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My friend told me I would like the new Model 3 more than my Miata, but Mazda isn’t deleting features from my car as I drive it, so that’s one point in the Miata’s favor.
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SiennaMan
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 18:11 |
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I just thought about something, I now have a perfectly reasonable excuse to low ball any used Tesla I’d consider buying.
Seller: it has..
Me (cutting in): no it doesn’t, the second Tesla sees you sold it they'll rip those features out over the air
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you know, I’ve thought about finding a ‘90s car I’d always wanted and learn how to restore it. The idea is looking better and better everyday..
WilliamsSW
> TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
02/06/2020 at 18:31 |
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Fuck subscriptions. Every goddamn company is trying to move to this model if they can because “millennials” or some shit. It’s not because of millennials, it’s because they’re greedy and want eternal revenue streams. And good luck canceling them.
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Snuze: Needs another Swede
> slipperysallylikespenguins
02/06/2020 at 18:36 |
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I’ve read about that, and meant to ask my cousin about it at Christmas. He farms a few hundred acres and owns several Deere’s. I’d love to hear his take on it, though knowing him he either A) has older models that they can’t do this to and will just refuse to upgrade or B) has already figured out workarounds.
Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 18:48 |
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I think the “dealer” owes the “customer” an $8,000 refund. Let him wring the money out of Tesla.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> For Sweden
02/06/2020 at 18:48 |
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Or turns on the auto-nosedive feature.
P5guy now GTIguy
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 19:03 |
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The worst part is all the idiots defending Tesla and claiming that if another company did it it wouldn't matter.
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RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> SiennaMan
02/06/2020 at 19:10 |
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It will never exist, but all I want is like...the EV version of a base trim Hyundai Accent or something with no fancy gizmos...
just A/C, actual KNOBS AND BUTTONS for controls and cruise control. I don’t need any fancy crap. Just give me a simple, reliable basic car....except with an EV drivetrain.
Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 19:12 |
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Well... we knew this would happen eventually... or at least should have. Also can we talk about how a car with 16k miles needed a new screen, new air springs, new ball joints, and new tie rods? Either those were some serious 16k miles or that this was a fabulous piece of shit Friday car.
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thatsmr
> SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
02/06/2020 at 19:25 |
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Usually in the case of older german cars, they continue to de-feature on their own
Chariotoflove
> Snuze: Needs another Swede
02/06/2020 at 19:40 |
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But remember, this Tesla was a used car.
Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
> Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
02/06/2020 at 19:41 |
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I’m betting that TSLA likely will backtrack on this and reinstate the functionality. Just give it some time.
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Chariotoflove
> RPM esq.
02/06/2020 at 19:43 |
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I’m wondering if it will reach class action status. All those Tesla users talk on forums. It will come out just how many have had this happen, and it will be easier to organize.
TheTurbochargedSquirrel
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 19:50 |
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The features likely weren’t a $8k cost adder for the selling dealer. I couldn’t care less about the used Tesla market but I can’t imagine the FSD features adding more than a couple thousand over a non-FSD car of the same age. Options don’t often have a huge amount of influence into used car prices.
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SiennaMan
> RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
02/06/2020 at 20:12 |
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Amen to that. Though some of us might need it
Elantra sized, especially as our “average American” frame ages.. ;-)
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RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> SiennaMan
02/06/2020 at 20:37 |
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Think I can get them to bring the Nobe here...maybe give it air bags, a less fancy interior and cheaper price and more range? :P
I love the fact the interior is minimalist with normal controls like sliders for the HVAC and normal gauges rather than touchscreens...
Thisismydisplayname
> Chariotoflove
02/06/2020 at 20:46 |
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True, but a used car that was sold with a feature that was later removed. Same as if you bought a used car with GPS and the manufacturer did a software update that bricked it after you drove it off the lot. The feature was a basis for the purchase price. But if Tesla wants to go this route with their used cars, then the next buyers should understand they shouldn’t factor in any software features as actual features. And adjust the price down accordingly.
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Thisismydisplayname
> thatsmr
02/06/2020 at 20:48 |
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Lmao! Well played
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SiennaMan
> RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
02/06/2020 at 20:50 |
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If you don’t mind being antisocial about passengers, an EM solo might be an easier starting point
price’s anticipated at under US$20k, interior is already less fancy , only have to get it here from Canada.
All that said, the Nobe has to be the most attractive 3 wheeled vehicle I’ve ever seen..
BaconSandwich is tasty.
> WilliamsSW
02/06/2020 at 20:51 |
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Amen!
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Chariotoflove
> Thisismydisplayname
02/06/2020 at 20:52 |
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Oh I’m with you. He was saying that all this stuff is why he won’t buy a new car, and I was just pointing out that sticking with used didn’t save this poor soul.
I think he actually meant “newer” cars and not “ brand new“ . But my quip is funnier to me if I ignore that.
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Thisismydisplayname
> Chariotoflove
02/06/2020 at 21:08 |
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As long As the sale price reflects the decontenting then it’s all okay, like how bmws out of warranty resale dives off a cliff. It’s just going to take some time before the buying public gets wise to this bs
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Chariotoflove
> Thisismydisplayname
02/06/2020 at 21:13 |
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But it goes beyond that. It’s not acceptable to “decontent” a car once it’s sold. It doesn’t belong to Tesla after that. The dealer bought the car when it had a feature. He deserves to get what he paid for. He might not have bought it if he knew it was going to have stuff repossessed.
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Snuze: Needs another Swede
> Chariotoflove
02/06/2020 at 21:15 |
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Thats the most F’d up part. As I understand it the dealer bought it with features in tact, the guy bought it, and then Tesla neutered it.
Regardless, I dont like the idea of anyone ever having the capability to OTA neuter my car.
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Chariotoflove
> Snuze: Needs another Swede
02/06/2020 at 21:20 |
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I think the dealer bought it, Tesla OTA removed the features without the dealer’s knowledge, them the customer bought it and found out later that the features on the window sticker weren’t there. Still just as F’d up whether it’s the dealer or the customer that got screwed. In my view, both were violated.
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Snuze: Needs another Swede
> Chariotoflove
02/06/2020 at 21:59 |
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Ah. My understanding of the timeline may be a bit off (I read it sober, I’m 2 margaritas deep). But my point stands... F$%&k Tesla.
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RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> SiennaMan
02/06/2020 at 22:19 |
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I don’t mind the EM, but yes, the Nobe is pretty damn gorgeous...
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Chariotoflove
> Snuze: Needs another Swede
02/06/2020 at 22:19 |
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Very jealous. I finished all my margaritas Tuesday.
And yes. F Tesla.
RangerSmith
> Snuze: Needs another Swede
02/06/2020 at 23:55 |
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So there has been an increasingly huge market for older tractors for the last 10-15 years now because of that.
I spent some time in the Ag world and once
saw a John Deere dealer grenade a tractor in the middle of harvest by trying to do “
a quick 5 minute update”. They ended up spending a lot of money and man-hours trying to make it right during the busiest time of the year.
winterlegacy, here 'till the end
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/07/2020 at 00:31 |
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Boeing Nosedive(tm): Now when our stock prices nosedive, you do too!
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Snuze: Needs another Swede
> Chariotoflove
02/07/2020 at 10:16 |
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Okay, sober now, and you are right. Though it seems like the used car dealer was not aware of Teslas actions and sold the car in good faith, believing it had all the features it was supposed to have.
I think that’s the big disconnect. If Tesla wants to play this game, fine, but they need to tell the dealer and let people know upfront that the features will be disabled and they have to pay a seperate fee to Tesla to reactivate them. It’s slimy, sure, but at least it would be honest. What Tesla did is both slimy AND dishonest if that’s indeed how it played out .
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Snuze: Needs another Swede
> RangerSmith
02/07/2020 at 10:22 |
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That’s crazy, and sucks for that poor farmer.
Maybe I’m turning into an old man, but I feel like I understand tech implementation less and less. I love certain things, like my smartphone - I love having the sum of world knowledge available at my fingertips anytime, anywhere. But I’m not sure why a fridge or light bulbs need WiFi.