LongVoyager, your eventual upgrade...

"and 100 more" (nth256) 02/06/2020 at 13:46 • Filed to: None

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AWD confirmed!

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Nibby > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 13:54

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his upgrade in 2037

For Sweden > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 13:56

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Shift24 > For Sweden 02/06/2020 at 14:03

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Spanfeller is a twat > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 14:03

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But does it have a Hemi?

Discerning > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 14:03

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Those Pentastars have gone unchanged for so long. Reminds me of Nissan and their VQ. Which just further validates my claim that Nissan is the Japanese Dodge.

But I guess you could say the same for the GR, J35, etc. Oh well, I stand by my statement!

For Sweden > Shift24 02/06/2020 at 14:04

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Shift24 > For Sweden 02/06/2020 at 14:09

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(Apparently thats B in Wingdings)

7:07 > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 14:12

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They included a bunch of standard safety features that were mucho $$ and a couple trim levels up in the past.  That alone is a great move with AWD being the proverbial cherry on top.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 14:18

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Just like the Durangos these fail on, so will these in a few years, and it’ll look horrid and cost limbs to replace.

Unless they actually figured out how to do it properly this time.

Example of what I’m talking about.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 14:21

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I like the old one better.

Mercedes Streeter > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/06/2020 at 14:29

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Oooooh, it’s a racetrack with a tunnel section or jump!

Seriously though, it seems the only FCA products I don’t see with partially dead ‘racetrack’ lights are Challengers.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Shift24 02/06/2020 at 14:35

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WHO YOU CALLIN A WINGDING?!

and 100 more > Nibby 02/06/2020 at 14:35

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I mean, he’ll swap the engine in the new Caravan at least three times before he thinks of trading up.

and 100 more > Spanfeller is a twat 02/06/2020 at 14:36

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Yeah, transverse! 

OPPOsaurus WRX > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/06/2020 at 14:50

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i’ve seen so much of that.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Discerning 02/06/2020 at 14:55

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The GR, yes, the J, a little less so. A modern J35 has a lot of parts that won’t fit a J from the turn of the century. I think Honda just uses the J designation for all its V6s now, because even the NSX’s engine code is JNC1.

412GTI > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 15:07

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Now the real question is will this design language debut on another Chrysler vehicle or will they still just offer two cars lol

Long_Voyager94 > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 16:04

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AWD or not, they couldn’t pay me to take a Pacifica.

I think they’re ugly as sin ( although the new nose is an improvement ) and they feel terrible inside.

Long_Voyager94 > Discerning 02/06/2020 at 16:05

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The Pentastar has been getting constantly updated and tweaked over the years.

Long_Voyager94 > 7:07 02/06/2020 at 16:05

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Those additions are just one of the many reasons I’ll never buy one.

Discerning > Long_Voyager94 02/06/2020 at 16:12

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I refuse to acknowledge this fact.

Discerning > interstate366, now In The Industry 02/06/2020 at 16:13

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True

Long_Voyager94 > Discerning 02/06/2020 at 16:17

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Just got a lower intake manifold update in 2018.

Chariotoflove > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 16:20

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Such a nice van. It’s worth keeping Chrysler around just for these, even if they lose the 300.

Discerning > Long_Voyager94 02/06/2020 at 16:43

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Th at seems like a mild change.

I suppose it's just surprising it lacks direct injection and that the power has changed much in years.

Nom De Plume > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 16:53

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I’ve been giving this some thought since reading a comment by him this morning.

I feel reasonably confident once the kids are gone he’s going to throw off the believe system he built up around minivanlyfe. Oh, he’ll always keep his hand in the game for when the golden years roll around and grand kiddies start needing indoctrination into muscle minivan’s that eat thunder and crap shredded asphalt out from between all four of their powered wheels.

S ee him rolling over a boatload of equity and good behavior into something new off the lot that needs really nothing done to it except removing a few pesky legally required frivolities. A vehicle about as low slung as any sane person would own given the state of his local roads. Then warehousing a half dozen sets of pre- mounted wheels the rubber disappears off with regularity.

and 100 more > Nom De Plume 02/06/2020 at 17:08

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Interesting hypothesis!

LongVoyager, would you like to comment?

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > and 100 more 02/06/2020 at 19:26

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I see they are trying to SUV-ify the front end 

Thisismydisplayname > Long_Voyager94 02/06/2020 at 20:57

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Did they fix the oil cooler issue with that update as well?  Seems like more of an issue for the early pentastars, but that may just be because the newer ones haven’t aged up yet.  

Thisismydisplayname > Discerning 02/06/2020 at 20:58

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Direct injection can suck it.  At least without the port injection add on that some of the newer DI engines have.  Carbon build up blows.  Ask any Audi FSI owner. 

Discerning > Thisismydisplayname 02/06/2020 at 21:14

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Direct and port injection rule. I'm quite content with my coyote and its direct and port injection 

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > and 100 more 02/07/2020 at 00:33

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They revamped the front (good!) but they still haven’t really made it look good from behind...

Long_Voyager94 > Discerning 02/07/2020 at 06:55

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Why change what works to a more trouble some design?

They’re making 300+hp NA from a pretty basic V6 while passing emissions and getting respectable economy without needing to add all the troublesome things. Personally, I call that a win.

Long_Voyager94 > Thisismydisplayname 02/07/2020 at 06:56

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Haven’t heard of oil cooler issues?

I know oil filter housings are prone to crack from getting over torqued.

Long_Voyager94 > Nom De Plume 02/07/2020 at 06:59

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When the kids are gone is when I can get really crazy with a minivan, I honestly don’t see myself getting out of the minivan game.

That’s not to say that I won’t dabble in something like a Hellcat at some point, but they’ll probably be outlawed for production by the time I’m actually ready to buy, so I’ll just end up building my own monster.

Long_Voyager94 > Chariotoflove 02/07/2020 at 07:01

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They’re really not though.

The interior is cheap feeling, the seats are terrible, the transmission is horrid, the handling is terrible.

They need to axe the Pacifica/Voyager and keep the Grand Caravan on.

Discerning > Long_Voyager94 02/07/2020 at 09:02

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N issan could say the same thing. Which is why I maintain that Nissan is the Japanese Dodge.

I didn’t say what they’re doing is wrong. I even said that Toyota, Nissan, and Honda are doing the same thing...

Chariotoflove > Long_Voyager94 02/07/2020 at 09:31

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Okay. I mean, I liked it, but that doesn’t mean you have to. And I also think they should keep around the GC, even though it wasn’t our choice. 

Nom De Plume > Long_Voyager94 02/07/2020 at 09:40

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How many years of ponderance are left?

Long_Voyager94 > Nom De Plume 02/07/2020 at 09:57

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I have 12 years until the youngest is old enough to be on her own. Even after that I can’t see my life without a minivan, they’re far too convenient.  

Long_Voyager94 > Chariotoflove 02/07/2020 at 09:59

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We drove a few of them before we got our GC. Something about them they just felt extremely cheap.

I mean sure, they’re loaded up with tech, but that means nothing to me.

No offense meant to you, a lot of people like them, I just can’t get past their inherent flaws.

Nom De Plume > Long_Voyager94 02/07/2020 at 10:14

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Fair enough, I’m just noting the cycle is very well established and your handling of the transition to hard realities of parenthood has some admirable facets.  I grin every time I see a photo of your minivan.

Chariotoflove > Long_Voyager94 02/07/2020 at 10:53

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No offense taken. I hope for Chrysler’s sake and that of the buyers that they don’t turn out to be cheap. 

Long_Voyager94 > Chariotoflove 02/07/2020 at 12:08

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Given all the issues with them already, I think it’s too late.

someoneatacura > interstate366, now In The Industry 02/07/2020 at 13:40

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They make the most changes to the heads, the block remains fairly similar.

Thisismydisplayname > Discerning 02/07/2020 at 16:42

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That’s the proper way to do DI.  

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Long_Voyager94 05/23/2020 at 19:39

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Why couldn't I use this to paint the Vic? Use thinned Rust-Oleum and I couldn't possibly wind up worse than if I used rattle cans, could I?

Long_Voyager94 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 05/26/2020 at 07:01

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The problem with those sprayers is they generally don’t lay down a smooth coat and they lack a decent “fan”.

Don’t get me wrong, you can always give a tes t spray on something and see how it goes.