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"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
10/20/2020 at 18:45 • Filed to: None

My daughter baked these. That system time for installing El Cap was the fix and it was super easy to find a terminal prompt during the installation.

Here are some cookies for you that my daughter baked.

Here’s a question for you: My MacBook Pro is mid-2009. Is El Cap really the last OS that’ll run on that machine? Is it a hardware architecture issue?

DISCUSSION (7)

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
10/20/2020 at 19:11

Yay! Glad that did the trick! Tell your daughter those look delicious! She did an awesome job on those cobweb ones! :D

As for El Cap being the last MacOS vesion your Mac can run...sadly, yes :(

Support from Apple ended in October 2019 for El Cap too, so you can’t get any more bug or security fixes on it either with El Cap. Find your Mac in this chart as proof:

https://everymac.com/systems/by_capability/maximum-macos-supported.html

Welcome to Apple (I’m not a fan, personally, I just do computer repair on the side...PCs running Windows or Linux are my thing)...they LOVE to cut off their users’ hardware off for more recent OS support so they have to spend a crapton more money on another new $1000+ machine every so many years! The shitty thing is your computer would probably TECHNICALLY run the most current MacOS half-decently...there are ways to force later installs of more recent MacOS versions on older hardware that isn’t supposed to support it, but it’s not super easy and I’ve never tried it! You could look it up if you wanted to find more info!

Alternatively, I could run Win10 on a PC from 2005 if I wanted to....it would run like garbage, BUT, it would still run and receive current security and bugfix updates...Microsoft has no such hard cut-line compared to Apple. As long as you meet the hardware specs, you can run it. As for Linux, you can get that to run on a rusty bent paperclip, depending what you want to use it for, lol.

I have a friend with an iMac of a similar vintage to your Macbook...as El Cap is no longer supported, he actually runs Manjaro Linux on his Mac as a ‘daily OS’ instead of MacOS instead because the hardware can still run current Linux versions, no problem. Though, being a Mac, it took a little tweaking compared to a PC. I wasn’t there to see what it involved...thing is, I’m not sure if you’d want to even try as I don’t know how vested you are in things like iCloud support or Apple software (Pages, etc) that are MacOS only...? He uses Manjaro in his article, which is Arch Linux-based rather than Ubuntu-based....nothing wrong with that, I’m just more familiar with Ubuntu-based distros - my go-to is usually Linux Mint, as that is what I run on my laptop and media center PC (I have Win10 on my main high-power desktop).

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
10/20/2020 at 19:28

I might look up that forcing of later OS versions to run on older Mac thing. I might see if any of the resident hackers on Oppo have any suggestions on that.

Thanks again.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
10/20/2020 at 19:46

No problem!

Here’s an article to maybe get you started researching it:

https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/install-catalina-old-mac-3654960/

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
10/20/2020 at 19:49

Congrats on getting that sorted. I was wondering if that was the reason for the text this afternoon. Still haven’t had a chance to look into that.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
10/20/2020 at 21:40

Looks like High Sierra is the one to aim for, but there's also a question of whether my MBP has DDR2 or DDR3 RAM. They mad a switch on 2009, apparently.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
10/20/2020 at 21:58

There should be a system info tool somewhere that should be able to tell you. You could also remove the RAM chips and check for yourself...they shouldn’t be too hard to access on your model of Macbook Pro if you look up how (I forget off the top of my head).

If the chips have ‘PC2' on their labels, then they are DDR2, if ‘PC3', DDR3. :)

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
10/20/2020 at 23:05

I am tempted to see if I can get a later os version to run on it, but I’ve just got no time for it. I'd gift it to someone if I thought they needed it.