Tom Mix Car Crash

"SBA Thanks You For All The Fish" (santabarbarianlsx) 10/12/2020 at 10:39 • Filed to: None

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Happened today in 1940. That was another “year for the ages”.

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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/12/2020 at 12:16

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https://www.okhistory.org/sites/tommix

https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry.php?entry=MI029

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 10/12/2020 at 12:24

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He’s an interesting character because he lived such a full life BEFORE he went to CA to become a cowboy movie star. His bio is amazing.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/12/2020 at 13:27

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I love reading about these characters from the old west.

This has been a pretty fascinating (if brutal, on both sides) read so far:

https://www.amazon.com/Captured-Indians-Firsthand-Accounts-1750-1870/dp/0486249018

kanadanmajava1 > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/12/2020 at 14:18

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Tom did die in the crash but his C ord didn’t. It seems to be still doing quite fine.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > kanadanmajava1 10/12/2020 at 14:50

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If you read the accounts of accident— there is some cosmic-karma that he might have survived, except for the unfortunate shift of a very heavy suitcase stuffed full of cash that impacted his head in the overturned vehicle . ironic.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 10/12/2020 at 15:02

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BTW, it was a “big news day”... just like 2020...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/12/2020 at 15:17

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Wow - Tom takes top billing.

“ U.S. Wants No War” - what would the world be like today if Pearl Harbor never happened and we never intervened...?

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 10/12/2020 at 15:27

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This was my “minor” area as an undergrad... this headline sorta telegraphs what FDR’s point of view was. The US public wanted no part of another European war. None. FDR recognized this as untenable— and so began serious preparations (as well as supporting the Brits under the table as much as he could) even as he echoed the “we want no involvement”.

The revisionist view is that FDR was actually a lot more active in looking for pretenses to enter. The “sneak attack” by Japan actually followed months of pretty hardball actions by the US— including the  oil embargo and active throttling of war supplies to Japan. We also seized a lot of Japanese assets in July 1941 and froze transactions underway-- including Japan’s access to 88% of their oil sources.   They were in a tight spot.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/12/2020 at 15:34

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So, alternate history hypothesizing, how do you think it all would have played out if FDR also wanted n o part of it , and decided to be Switzerland while it all played itself out across the pond(s)?

kanadanmajava1 > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/12/2020 at 18:02

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Yes I did. That was an u nfortunate placement of wealth indeed.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 10/12/2020 at 18:19

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Certainly there were advocates for exactly that position. The presumption was that the bankers-and-investors on this side of the Atlantic had too much vested interest in the outcome to stay completely neutral. Both Ford and Lindbergh advocated strongly to help Germany.... of course the timing was against the backdrop of the depression and the rise of socialist-communist systems vying for hegemony. And, at least early, this played into peoples’ thinking.

Of course, the US probably stood to “win” no matter what, given the outcome of WWI— which had the curious effect of shifting 90% of the world’s hardest of hard currency (gold) into the US coffers. A fascinating book about the wind-up explosive clock mechanism of WWII’s financial pressures is “The Lords of Finance” about the players and the tortured negotiations over “reparations” in the 1930s.

it’s a great question-- but it’s truly hard to fathom the US staying out entirely.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 10/13/2020 at 09:58

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Well, even though the costs were huge for many American families , I’m glad we didn’t.