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10/10/2020 at 20:33 • Filed to: None

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Someone rolled their Jeep off Black Bear Pass today by Telluride. Driver was not in the car, his “female friend” was ejected and airlifted to the hospital. This is what’s left of the Jeep.

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DISCUSSION (35)


Kinja'd!!! PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 20:39

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Fuck, no thanks.

When living in CO I had considered doing a trip on this trail, hummed and hawed but  never pulled the trigger....too easy for the wrong thing to go sideways.

Hope everyone pulls through.


Kinja'd!!! Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 20:41

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Things that Jeep Wranglers don’t come from the factory with:

Roll cages

Harnesses

Arm restraints

Helmets

Drivers who know what they’re doing


Kinja'd!!! smobgirl > PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
10/10/2020 at 20:43

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I’ve hiked it and it’s scary looking straight down that cliff. I don’t want to be up there on anything less stable than my own feet.


Kinja'd!!! atfsgeoff > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
10/10/2020 at 20:47

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They do come with factory roll cages, but they're only engineered to survive one or two low-speed rolls. Tumbling down the side of a mountain results in.. well...


Kinja'd!!! farscythe - makin da cawfee! > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 20:56

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its a jeep thing?

holy shit that things mangled


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 20:57

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I feel like this happens so often it’ s only a matt er of time before they close the pass.


Kinja'd!!! Urambo Tauro > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 21:00

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“Ejected”, presumably not wearing a seat belt then... one of the few times where such a decision actually worked in t heir favor, it seems.


Kinja'd!!! SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 21:04

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interesting that the impacts along the way actually deflated the tires by knocking the beads off the seats.  That’s considerable force.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 21:05

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A well functioning parking brake and brain  is a very important offroading tool.


Kinja'd!!! RooseveltDad > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 21:06

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Agreed - it’s great for hiking, but I wouldn’t want to drive up there.


Kinja'd!!! Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > atfsgeoff
10/10/2020 at 21:11

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It’s not a roll cage from the factory, it’s body structure.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 21:12

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Silver lining

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Kinja'd!!! atfsgeoff > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
10/10/2020 at 21:25

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In no way are those tubes body structure 


Kinja'd!!! The Snowman > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 21:26

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Technically wasn't even off roading until it rolled off. Black bear is crazy.


Kinja'd!!! Gerry197 > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 21:29

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Yup, its sometimes a scary thing, literally on the side of a mountain on a narrow shelf road not big enough for two vehicles to cross each other, one side is the mountain wall, the other a sheer cliff.

Especially interesting when heading down and another vehicle heading up, the one going down is supposed to back up until you find enough room for two vehicles to pass. Going in reverse up a narrow hill is rather a harry situation.

But I got to say, it’s a lot of fun :)

Here is a good video example of my local mountain trail in San Diego on an actual “wide” section that allows two vehicles to pass each other. Recommend you watch at full screen to fully experience the sphincter clutching sight of that sheer fall ...


Kinja'd!!! dieseldub > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 21:30

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Definitely one of those trails to have a spotter help you maneuver those extreme tight switchbacks.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > dieseldub
10/10/2020 at 21:33

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The spotter was  the guy that lost his Jeep and girlfriend.


Kinja'd!!! Berang > HammerheadFistpunch
10/10/2020 at 21:37

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Does it happen that often though? I know lots of people have rolled over on the steps on Black Bear, but usually without any serious injury or damage. Most of the real serious, down the side of the mountain rollovers, that I can recall happen on Imogene pass.


Kinja'd!!! BeaterGT > smobgirl
10/10/2020 at 21:38

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#justjeepthings


Kinja'd!!! Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > atfsgeoff
10/10/2020 at 21:40

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Those tubes are 100% body structure and not a roll cage. A roll cage is designed and built to withstand a roll, the tubes in a factory jeep are only there to keep the body from folding up while driving down the road.


Kinja'd!!! facw > Urambo Tauro
10/10/2020 at 21:41

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Yeah, being ejected is usually a bad thing, but given that this Jeep no longer has a passenger cabin, I don’t think being belted would have helped her much.


Kinja'd!!! facw > DipodomysDeserti
10/10/2020 at 21:42

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Good dog!


Kinja'd!!! atfsgeoff > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
10/10/2020 at 21:46

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All Wranglers are body on frame, you can drive them down the road just fine with those tubes unbolted and removed. 


Kinja'd!!! smobgirl > DipodomysDeserti
10/10/2020 at 21:58

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Damn, good news on the dog! 


Kinja'd!!! flatisflat > atfsgeoff
10/10/2020 at 22:43

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Then perhaps we can introduce the argument that “not all roll cages are equal”. So while that Jeep’s tubes might technically fall under the category of a roll cage, it is hardly an FIA cage and can’t (apparaently) withstand much rolling.


Kinja'd!!! atfsgeoff > flatisflat
10/10/2020 at 22:46

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I can absolutely agree with that, it is by no means a particularly robust roll cage on its own, but they do sell kits that add more tubes and braces to it for better durability during harder crunchy rollovers.


Kinja'd!!! shop-teacher > smobgirl
10/11/2020 at 00:11

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Daaaaaaaaang


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > atfsgeoff
10/11/2020 at 01:03

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On the JK Jeep called them “sports bars”, and they’re bolted into the body, not the frame. The lack of bar over the windshield means they also don’t act like a roll cage, with the windshield collapsing on the driver. 


Kinja'd!!! atfsgeoff > DipodomysDeserti
10/11/2020 at 01:09

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most roll cages are bolted to the body, not the frame. They’re not there to protect the frame, they’re meant to keep occupants from being crushed, who are typically inside the body.


Kinja'd!!! DipodomysDeserti > atfsgeoff
10/11/2020 at 01:36

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That is not true at all. Real roll cages are either welded to the frame, or to reinforced steel plates on unibodies. The body will bend in an accident, the frame usually wont. You don’t want a safety structure bolted to something that is bending. It has nothing to do with protecting the frame. Bolting a cage to a body would mostly be for looks, and no legitimate builder would call it a cage, despite what Billy Bob the backwoods welder says.


Kinja'd!!! atfsgeoff > DipodomysDeserti
10/11/2020 at 01:45

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OK!


Kinja'd!!! brianbrannon > smobgirl
10/11/2020 at 13:52

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The passes are full of fucktards with no trail etiquette 


Kinja'd!!! gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > smobgirl
10/11/2020 at 22:55

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How scary is it when vehicles pass? is there enough room on the sidee of the trial?


Kinja'd!!! smobgirl > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/12/2020 at 00:43

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I was there too early in the season for cars. It’s a west facing cliff and all of the shadowed parts of the trail were still covered with ice and snow, so it was me and a bunch of mountain bikers on the 3-4 feet closest to the edge of the road! I think you’d probably be alright as long as you paid attention to timing and the drivers had even an ounce of courtesy.

The mental image of what a mistake could do has been in my mind ever since, though, so incidents like this always catch my eye. Folks used to live at the power plant on the cliff there year round and I can’t even imagine. “Sorry honey, dropped my coffee cup! ...700 feet down the front yard”


Kinja'd!!! MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > smobgirl
11/06/2020 at 09:12

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Not sure if you saw the video of it, but had this guy been 50 ft further along the road that would have been some seriously bad luck.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ExtremeCarCrashes/comments/jf4rwi/jeep_falls_off_black_bear_pass_in_colorado/