Rare, but not valuable.

"shop-teacher" (shop-teacher) 01/15/2020 at 15:12 • Filed to: NPOCP

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How’s about an !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! COUPE? These were rare when new. In this condition these days, rare as hen’s teeth. At the $600 asking price, I say NP.

Of course, the pictures all suck, and the only thing the ad says is “Limpio.”

Never change internet.  Never change.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:21

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Budget Radwood entry 

shop-teacher > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 01/15/2020 at 15:22

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Totes.

Future next gen S2000 owner > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:23

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LeMons!

VincentMalamute-Kim > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:26

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The Eurosport looked good.

jimz > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:26

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it’s a V6, not an Iron Duke, so at least it has that going for it. 

shop-teacher > Future next gen S2000 owner 01/15/2020 at 15:27

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I could see doing a Concours de Lemons with it, but it looks like it’s in too good of shape to cut up into a race car.

Of course, it’s a Celebrity, so ...

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 01/15/2020 at 15:27

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You’d definitely have *celebrity* status  at radwood :D

shop-teacher > jimz 01/15/2020 at 15:27

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Yeah, even the crap ass 2.8 is still better than an Iron Duke.

shop-teacher > VincentMalamute-Kim 01/15/2020 at 15:28

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It definitely did!

Future next gen S2000 owner > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:30

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..... too good of shape to cut up into a race car.

Does not compute.

jimz > VincentMalamute-Kim 01/15/2020 at 15:33

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they never explained what was “Euro” about it, though.

Kiltedpadre > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:33

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My parents had one of these when I was a kid. I was young enough that all I really remember was that it was maroon with a maroon cloth interior. It was replaced with a 1989 Lesabre T-type that came very close to being my first car.

For $600 it’s definitely a NP in my book.

fintail > VincentMalamute-Kim 01/15/2020 at 15:35

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I think that might be the “VR” model as well, virtual reality BMW.

Chariotoflove > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:35

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I will tell you one person this c ould be legitimately useful for: people with folding wheelchairs. Think older vets and others without a lot of arm strength and maybe not too much cash either. The 80s and even into the 90s were the time of larger coupes with wide door openings, spacious back seats, and no drive tunnels to deal with because of FWD. You had lots of choices to fold a chair and pull it into the seat behind you. Today not so much. Big coupes are dead at affordable price points. I’ve met plenty of guys who would see this ad and say, “if it’s mechanically sound, maybe...”.

fintail > jimz 01/15/2020 at 15:36

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Black and body color trim, wheels!  Just like an AMG!

My brother had a Lumina “Euro”, I remarked “wow, I thought it was a BMW”.  He actually liked the car though.  

fintail > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:37

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Probable NP, although I am very suspect of the color of the driver’s side rocker area and how it appears to also be applied to the front tire in one shot.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:37

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I liked the Celebrity, though I wouldn’t want a coupe.

M.T. Blake > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:45

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Didn’t Ed Rooney drive one of these?

shop-teacher > M.T. Blake 01/15/2020 at 15:55

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No, he had a K-car.

M.T. Blake > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 15:56

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Ahhh yes that’s right. 

Long_Voyager94 > VincentMalamute-Kim 01/15/2020 at 16:04

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That’s the Eurosport VR!

Long_Voyager94 > jimz 01/15/2020 at 16:05

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2.8 was competent.

Actually, the Iron Duke wasn’t terrible, so long as you let it shift around 4k. 

Long_Voyager94 > Chariotoflove 01/15/2020 at 16:07

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I’d daily it.

You’d be hard pressed to find any vehicle as comfortable for eating up miles these days.

shop-teacher > M.T. Blake 01/15/2020 at 16:13

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They’re pretty easy to mix up!

shop-teacher > Chariotoflove 01/15/2020 at 16:14

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Ah, good call!  

shop-teacher > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 01/15/2020 at 16:14

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*rimshot*

shop-teacher > Future next gen S2000 owner 01/15/2020 at 16:15

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Hahaha!

shop-teacher > Kiltedpadre 01/15/2020 at 16:15

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Those LeSabre T-Types look REALLY good!

shop-teacher > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/15/2020 at 16:16

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I like the coupe.  

Kiltedpadre > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 16:20

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I was really upset when I didn’t get it.

The deal going in was if the dealership offered them $3500 or less  in trade they were going to just give it to me. The dealer offered them $3750.

shop-teacher > Kiltedpadre 01/15/2020 at 16:26

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You should have offered them $300.

Kiltedpadre > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 16:27

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I wasn’t working yet or I would’ve.

M.T. Blake > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 16:29

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^Fact

Chariotoflove > Long_Voyager94 01/15/2020 at 16:32

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True.  Chevy was great at those.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 16:33

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I’ve always been a four-door guy. It’s more practical for carrying folks around, and those coupe doors can get unwieldy.

Chariotoflove > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 16:33

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A very specific automatch niche that I’m good at.

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 16:53

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A Celebrity that in 10 years will turn you into a (very small) celebrity.

WilliamsSW > fintail 01/15/2020 at 17:05

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I worked for Avis around 1991, and virtually the whole fleet was GMs finest FWD offerings.

The Lumina Euro did have a stiffer suspension and heavier steering than the base car.  It was a lot more fun to hoon than the base car.  

WilliamsSW > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 17:07

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These weren’t rare when new. Less common than the 4 door, but still everywhere.

My mom had an 83 Ciera 2 door  with the Iron Duke.  Fun fact- it was still possible to truly bury the needle in that car.  I know that for a fact because .

WilliamsSW > Long_Voyager94 01/15/2020 at 17:11

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My moms Ciera had the Duke.  It wasn’t quick, but it was fine and reliable.  

shop-teacher > Chariotoflove 01/15/2020 at 17:25

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Makes sense :)

fintail > WilliamsSW 01/15/2020 at 17:28

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A base Lumina looks really base, too.  Clean in a way, but maybe too spartan.

I think my brother’s car was a 93, a sedan with I believe the 3.1 and that raspy exhaust note. I don’t recall it having engine issues, but I am pretty sure it puked a transmission, but he actually repaired it, as he liked the car. He let a friend borrow it, who misjudged a turn and ditched it hard, total loss. Replaced with something even less common, a Sundance Duster, yes, the V6 one.     

shop-teacher > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/15/2020 at 17:29

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My mom refused to drive anything with more than two doors, because, “Four-doors are ugly.” Most of my childh ood the family fleet was my mom’s Oldsmobile coupe, and my dad’s regular cab Chevy truck. She begrudgingly bought a sedan when I was in high school, because by then she had become a realtor and needed to occasionally haul clients around. Thus, my affinity for coupes.

shop-teacher > WilliamsSW 01/15/2020 at 17:31

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I don’t recall seeing 2-door Cieras or Celebreties but once in a blue moon, even when they were new.  And I was paying attention.  The 4-doors were everywhere, and even the wagons were quite common.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 17:34

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My deal is pretty much the same, but with four doors. When I went to live with my dad and his wife, her car was a ‘71 or ‘71 Camaro Rally Sport. We took 8-hour car rides as a family of four in that Camaro and the backseat was NOT fun. And the door was long. They they traded it for a ‘77 Caprice Classic four-door -- Motor Trend Car of the Year for 1977 -- and I learnt to drive in that car and developed a deep affinity for it. We’d go on family trips and they’d let me drive the entire 8 hours and the driving is the one thing my dad ever said I did well.

VincentMalamute-Kim > Long_Voyager94 01/15/2020 at 17:39

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Dang, you guys know all the minutia  :)

VincentMalamute-Kim > jimz 01/15/2020 at 17:40

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Just the badge and monochrome appearance package, I assume.

WilliamsSW > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 17:42

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The 2 door was common at the beginning, in the early 80s. It dropped off, though, and was dead entirely by the late 80s- while the sedan stayed in production approximately 4 decades ( or at least it seemed that way for the Century).

So yeah, they were rare by the 1990s, but early on it was more common.

WilliamsSW > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 17:47

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Lol as a kid the only 4 door cars we ever had were cars that weren’t available with 2 doors (caprice wagon, briefly a W116 Mercedes).

shop-teacher > WilliamsSW 01/15/2020 at 19:46

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Lol, gotcha.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > VincentMalamute-Kim 01/15/2020 at 20:10

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There was a few short days when I really wanted one as a kid. My brother had a Celebrity, and I saw one of these and immediately wanted it. Just my big brothers car but cooler!

On my defense I was 10. 

ranwhenparked > shop-teacher 01/15/2020 at 20:27

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Its certainly worth $600, I’ll give it that.

These have probably spent the past 30 years at the absolute bottom of their depreciation curve, with no upward trend in sight. 

shop-teacher > ranwhenparked 01/15/2020 at 20:48

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Sounds about right :)

carcrazydan738 > shop-teacher 01/16/2020 at 09:20

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I think this qualifies as radwood bait. I like it. I remember a friend’s father had a Buick Century 2 door. I’d drive this to a cars and coffee too.

shop-teacher > carcrazydan738 01/16/2020 at 10:58

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I agree, and so would I.