Subaru and Snow Tires

"Driving Sports TV" (drivingsports) 01/07/2020 at 10:25 • Filed to: Subaru

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We took the 2020 Subaru Ascent into the Cascade Mountains to test XMode with Winter Tires.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > Driving Sports TV 01/07/2020 at 10:28

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Lemme guess, before even watching it...

AWD and Snow Tires is GOOD.

Who would’ve guessed that?

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Driving Sports TV 01/07/2020 at 10:39

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Often when driving my outback (with snow tires) I wonder why everyone is going so slow when there is ice and snow on the road. The car is just so darn solid and planted to the ground. One thing I’ve noticed is that even with TC turned off the Outback won’t let you go full rally driver, it’s still there but more like 25% traction control than 100% traction control. 

OPPOsaurus WRX > Driving Sports TV 01/07/2020 at 10:44

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outback on winters = good

WRX on winters = amazing

CB > Driving Sports TV 01/07/2020 at 11:56

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Stop pushing me towards buying a Subaru. Hopefully going to test drive an Outback in two weeks.

functionoverfashion > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/07/2020 at 12:25

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I put new snows on our Volvo this year and it’s pretty fantastic. And the same is true of my traction control, I have to get pretty aggressive to get it sideways. It does respond well to a Scandi flick maneuver though. Go figure. 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > functionoverfashion 01/07/2020 at 12:27

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I tried hard to toss the outback side ways and the TC kicked in pretty hard, that was after I pushed the button to turn it off. Oh well. 

functionoverfashion > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/07/2020 at 13:01

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If I am timid about it, the Volvo gets upset even with TC off. But if I do something more dramatic, it’s almost like it doesn’t know what to do, and/or just can’t compensate for the fully-committed move. It’s hard to get sideways unless I use some variation of a pendulum move. 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > functionoverfashion 01/07/2020 at 13:08

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I was in 2nd gear and tried a scandi flick and it kicked in. It should have resulted in a nice 4 wheel drift with tires spinning forwards.

functionoverfashion > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/07/2020 at 22:16

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Should have bought a Scandinavian car, obviously. I bet there’s a way to defeat that, for when you really want to have fun.

Even in my E46 which had a pretty passive TC with a quick button press - I could throttle steer that car all over the place - in order to get full freedom there was one fuse I could pull, but it disabled ABS too. Good for rallycross-type driving, not so much on the street. 

pip bip - choose Corrour > Driving Sports TV 01/08/2020 at 03:28

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thankfully i live in a country where snow tyres are not req.

but send some snow, so we can melt it and put out some fires

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > pip bip - choose Corrour 01/08/2020 at 10:08

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Are you in NSW?

Dusty Ventures > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/08/2020 at 15:28

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Outback with WRX motor on winters:

pip bip - choose Corrour > Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom 01/08/2020 at 15:37

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Western half of Victoria 

Garandman > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/08/2020 at 21:01

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Until the snow is so deep ur front tires come off the ground and you stop. Then you jack up each side, shovel it out, and back up. Then you  put he WRX back in the garage and drive an Outback (3.0R amd3.6R, both with VTD) for the winter.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Garandman 01/08/2020 at 21:57

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i did that with my old Explorer Sport Trac.  I think that is how I ended up with a bent driveshaft.

Garandman > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/09/2020 at 09:14

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What year and model? On Gen 1-4 Off is Off. So 2015+? They’ve gone Toyota on us....