You Have Got To Be Kidding...

"Goggles Pizzano" (gogglespizzano) 09/26/2019 at 17:33 • Filed to: None

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Ridiculous price. There’s even grain whisky in this blend. They sold the 3 bottles they had in less than an hour. This is just one example and the first reason I will probably never buy a Japanese whisky.

I’m not saying Chivas Regal 18 is as good, but as a blend concept it’s the same idea. T here’s no way it’s 10x better. It can’t be worth it.

Nibby > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 17:35

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Snuze: Needs another Swede > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 17:37

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I have a bottle of Nikka Yoishi (sp?) that was under $50, I believe, and it’s fantastic. So I wouldn’t rule out all Japanese whisky just cause that one is expensive. Also , I wouldn’t buy $1,000 whisky of any type unless I could also afford to light my cigars with $100 bills.

Goggles Pizzano > Nibby 09/26/2019 at 17:37

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LOL

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 17:40

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Look up suntory whiskey's ”Toki” for a good, affordable Japanese whiskey. It's light, a bit on the fruity/sour side, and I can get a bottle for under 35$ all day, every day.

Goggles Pizzano > Snuze: Needs another Swede 09/26/2019 at 17:43

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I’m willing to bet there are many non- age statement single malts from S cotland, just as good, for $ 35 or $ 40 . I want to keep an open mind, I can’t help it though , it’s all I’ve seen.

promoted by the color red > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 17:45

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You can get some of the...less precious Japanese boozes for considerably less. My local J-supermarket had Suntory Toki for $20/pop. My local WalMart & Target apparently carries it too. 

Never really tried Nikka whiskey (from Hokkaido!) but the Suntory stuff’s nice .

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 17:46

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I’ve tried Suntory and was unimpressed. I also did not realize Chivas 18 was so expensive; I remember drinking from  a bottle my mom had in her cabinet when I was in college (so, 2005) that was probably from the early 80s

RPM esq. > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 17:47

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Maybe try to see more than one, then. Imagine if the only S cotch you’d ever seen was this one so you swore off all Scotch whiskey forever.

RPM esq. > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 17:49

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I’ve had this. It’s definitely n ot worth $28 00. That doesn’t mean I’ll never drink another bourbon.

Goggles Pizzano > RPM esq. 09/26/2019 at 17:49

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I need a perspective shift.

Goggles Pizzano > RPM esq. 09/26/2019 at 17:52

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I can’t find a single Japan ese whisky that doesn’t have a much cheaper scotch alternative. What are the chances that every Japanese whisky is better than the scotch alternative?

gin-san - shitpost specialist > promoted by the color red 09/26/2019 at 17:59

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I like Toki but it’s a $60 bottle here, it gets into the territory of other good whiskys. $20 (I’m guessing USD) is an absurdly low price, that’s less than half of what I have to pay in Canuckistan.

Chuckles > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 17:59

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“Good” and “worth it” are two very different concepts to me. I have no doubt that a $1,000 bottle of liquor is very good, but anything over $100 is pushing beyond the limits of worth it to me. I can appreciate the difference between the bottom shelf stuff and something around eye-level in the liquor store, but above a certain point it just feels like a waste of money.

This applies to most things in my life, not just alcohol.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 18:02

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I love Japanese whiskies, but as a rule I don’t buy any bottle that goes into triple digits. It’s just not worth it to me.

Also, if you want to talk ridiculous prices, I found this in Singapore (and their dollar is on par with Canada) :

So... there’s stuff like that. I love any Macallan whisky, but with eight grand I’d rather buy a few regular bottles of Macallan and some Singapore hookers.

Hamtractor > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 18:02

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I enjoy Japanese whisky, but remain a staunchly committed bourbon man. And there is a metric fuck-ton of excellent bourbon out there for under $100. I get the thrill of drinking super-expensive booze, I’ve gone to a couple of tasting parties where several thou sand dollars worth of booze was sampled out to a couple dozen attendees, but honestly my collection is pretty simple... Stranahan’s Colorado Whiskey and Breckenridge Distillery are two of my ALL time favorites, both can be found for under $70. Maker’s Mark is my go-to for mass produced big name bourbon. Strangely, despite my general distate for scotch and/or rye whiskey, I think Jameson’s Redbreast is pretty great too.

Long story short, I’d drink the hell outta that $1000 Tsuru, but only on somebody else’s dime.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 18:05

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Ridiculous prices. I prefer a nice rye whiskey like this... and it only costs CAD$27.50 :

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 18:06

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i wonder if its all pricey coz they have a whiskey shortage? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-tv-show-and-high-quality-has-led-japanese-whisky-shortage-180969102/

RPM esq. > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 18:08

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What are the chances that every Japanese whisky is better than the scotch alternative?

This premise is fundamentally illogical , like saying there’s no need to ever taste salmon sushi because you like lox already. O bviously, n ot every Japanese whiskey has a Scotch alternative—different grain profile, different smoke if smoked, different woods, different aging, etc. If the premise is that you’ve liked every single S cotch blend you’ve ever tasted, I question whether you’ve tasted very many, or whether you have taste buds.

I like Scotch a lot, but I don’t like every Scotch I’ve tried, and I’m certainly never going to buy one of the ones that costs $5-10k . I like Japanese whiskey a lot, but have tasted some I hated, and would not buy a $1000 bottle . I like many Irish whiskeys a lot too, but certainly not all of them . They are different from each other.

Try a Japa nese whiskey. You might like it. You might not! I f you don’t, try anothe r one. But don’t say “I saw an expensive one once and will therefore never taste any of them, including the reasonably priced ones.”

Goggles Pizzano > Hamtractor 09/26/2019 at 18:08

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$100 is my sweet spot also. Lately though my budget’s been creeping up to $130. I’ve bought 2 bottles over $200 and was very disappointed with one. This was an expensive lesson, but a good one.

I’d like Elijah Craig B arrel S trength to be my first bottle of good bo urbon. I just have to wait for it to hit our shelves

RPM esq. > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 18:10

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Also, for my money Chivas is trash and there are numerous Japanese whiskeys for half the price that I’d rather drink every day and twice on Sundays.

RPM esq. > Hamtractor 09/26/2019 at 18:11

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This guy’s point is apparently that he’ll never taste a $50-100 bottle because he saw a $1000 bottle once. Like hearing that Pappy goes for over $2000 and swearing off all bourbon forever.

Goggles Pizzano > RPM esq. 09/26/2019 at 18:16

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There are are numerous scotch whiskys for half the price that I’d rather drink too. :-)x

I just used it to compare as a grain/malt blend of around 17yo. :-)x

Snuze: Needs another Swede > RPM esq. 09/26/2019 at 18:18

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If I could afford it Id drink whisky twice everyday and twice again that much on Sunday.

Hamtractor > RPM esq. 09/26/2019 at 18:19

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As soon as I saw a Ford Truck truck that cost $90K, I swore I’d never buy a Ranger...

Goggles Pizzano > RPM esq. 09/26/2019 at 18:19

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Please, let’ s refrain from “this guy” and “apparently”. C’mon, this is Oppo.

Goggles Pizzano > Hamtractor 09/26/2019 at 18:30

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That’s not what I’m saying but if you’d like to take someone else’ s word for it then, o kay. I’m a rotten piece of shit.

Hamtractor > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 18:38

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I find it hard to believe that somebody who goes by the name Goggles Pizzano is a rotten piece of shit.  I was just cracking a joke by using automotive references to be funny.  Gotta have thicker skin than that in the interwebz, brohammer!

RPM esq. > Snuze: Needs another Swede 09/26/2019 at 19:03

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I can, almost . I do (well, mostly wine) . Probably d on’t.

RPM esq. > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 19:05

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I started typing your handle but it was long! No disrespect intended at all , only disagreement with the hot take.

404 - User No Longer Available > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 19:35

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Come on, that’s a bargain for 17-year old Tsurus...

https://automexico.com/auto-nissan-tsuru-camcampeche/2002-usado-aid698588

This one still going for like 3 grands.

Thomas Donohue > Hamtractor 09/26/2019 at 19:40

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While Redbreast and Jameson are both owned by Irish Distillers/Pernod, and they are distilled at the same facility, Redbreast isn’t a version of Jameson. Redbreast is a single pot still, made from 100% barley....whereas Jameson is a blend of grain whiskey with some barley as well.

I’ll have to give Stranahans a try....never had it, but I just looked it up and it h appens to be on sale for $55 near me.

Discerning > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 20:36

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I had a yamazaki 12 a long time ago. I'm not much of a whiskey person but I enjoyed it. 

i86hotdogs > Goggles Pizzano 09/26/2019 at 21:20

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I don’t consider myself a connosuier, but I like my bo urbon. I’ve never had Japanese whisky. Can someone enlighten me on the differences? Obviously there are more than a few factors that play into that. But what makes Japanese whisky Japanese whisky?

Where have all the lightweights gone? > RPM esq. 09/26/2019 at 22:30

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I’ve also had it and can 100% confirm it’s not worth that. In fact, I think the 20 year is better and can be had for $700-1200 less (depending on where/when you find it).

Snuze: Needs another Swede > RPM esq. 09/27/2019 at 01:26

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I could afford to drink swill twice a day and 4x on Sundays. But no t quality stuff. Well, I could, but then I wouldn't be able to afford car projects and such.  

Hamtractor > Thomas Donohue 09/27/2019 at 09:39

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That’s a pretty reasonable price for Stranahans.  Breckenridge os my favorite right now, and they do a bunch of small batch, special edition stuff every year around the holidays, they even do a spiced rum that’s ridiculously good.  I have a weak spot for Sailor Jerry’s though, which is a funny measuring stick for rum, lol...

Thomas Donohue > Hamtractor 09/27/2019 at 11:36

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That is too funny....Sailor Jerry’s is a summer staple for me. splash of soda water, splash of coke and a s mall squeeze of lime.   I’ve had (and like) lots of better rums but that one is always in my cabinet.

Hamtractor > Thomas Donohue 09/27/2019 at 11:58

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I like my Sailor Jerry’s with just about any carbonated beverage, lately it’s been the lime diet coke or even Vernor’s ginger ale. I have my “I’m tired, but want to stay up, have a few drinks and binge Netflix” cocktail though, which may or may not paint me as a white trash teenage girl ( but I don’t care, it’s delicious) which is a Purple Guava Pear Bang energy drink with some Three Olives grape vodka.  Get’s the job done while tasting delicious!