Trump Finally Manages to do -- or at Least Claim -- Something Classy...

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura) 09/19/2019 at 15:52 • Filed to: None

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— TRUMP PULLED A WAD OF CASH out of his pocket, when answering about a Reuters photo published Wednesday, which showed 20-dollar bills coming out of his pants: “I don’t carry a wallet because I haven’t had to use a credit card in a long time. I do like leaving tips to the hotel. I like to carry a little something. I like to give tips to the hotel. I’m telling you, maybe a president’s not supposed to do it, but I like to leave a tip for the hotel, etc., etc. Oh, that’s funny. So the jacket was blowing up?” (Whilst gaggling with reporters aboard Air Force One, a s reported in today’s Politico Playbook)

I never fail  to tip Housekeeping after a hotel stay.

E90M3 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:04

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I never fail to tip Housekeeping after a hotel stay.

Why? I don’t like the notion that you should have to tip some one for merely doing their job. I don’t mean in regards to restaurants , but other functions such as house keeping. 

merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:04

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He can’t afford not too forget to tip...  wouldn’t want those pee pee tapes getting out.

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > E90M3 09/19/2019 at 16:07

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I didn’t realize this until recently but tipping for hotel staff is actually expected, and from my understanding some states tax housekeeping employees with the expectation that they get tips, but I could be mistaken about that. Almost the same situation as tipping at a restaurant

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:07

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jPB59bVSbck

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > E90M3 09/19/2019 at 16:08

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Because they’re probably making $10/hr and have to clean up after me. I leave them $3 and I’ve given them a 30% raise for that hour they spent on my room.

Nothing says, “Thank you for scrubbing the toilet and the shower after me” like a few Georges.

Also, tipping is optional, right?

E90M3 > MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) 09/19/2019 at 16:09

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This past year is the first I’ve heard of people tipping house keeping; I find it to be asinine .

E90M3 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:11

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That is fair. Tipping should be optional, but don’t ask the people over at the takeout. 

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > E90M3 09/19/2019 at 16:11

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I see it more as a “sorry you have to scrub my poop marks out of  the toilet, hopefully this will make you forgive me”

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:12

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I posted about tipping house keeping a while back and I was surprised it was a thing and apparently expected. I have never tipped hotel cleaning staff. I figure for $250/night they can afford to pay their employees a reasonable wage. 

Ash78, voting early and often > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:12

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My housekeeping “tip” is that we normally don’t use them until Day 3 or 4 (beyond a 4-day stay, we normally call them in for a cleanup). I just don’t like strangers in my room in general, plus it just seems oddly opulent to me to have someone clean up after me every day.

I know that’s a false economy in some cases because they’re hourly and that’s potentially 30 minutes’ less work for them that day. Obviously if everyone did this, the housekeeping staff would be cut in half.

Ash78, voting early and often > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 09/19/2019 at 16:19

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You would certainly think so! I always try to leave some unopened leftover food in the minifridge with a note that they can take whatever they want.

It just feels weird to me to tip cash to anyone who is not overtly making server wages. Even then, I’m picky. 15% is my median, but more often than not I’m doing either 10% (meh) or 20% (nice!)....or 0% (horrid and I’m never coming back). That’s the way it’s supposed to work.

Chariotoflove > E90M3 09/19/2019 at 16:21

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There is so much societal pressure to tip.  It should just be called a service charge.  That said, I tip for appreciation.  I tip housekeeping because I tend to use more towels and mess than the average person.

Mercedes Streeter > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:24

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Not gonna lie, if the billionaire president of the free world gave me a $20 tip for service at (presumably) a high class hotel, I’d be like “that’s it?”

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > E90M3 09/19/2019 at 16:26

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I don’t always do it, but if we spend a couple nights in a place, I try to leave a few bucks. I think the point is this: people in the service industry are often doing some of the toughest work for the least pay. If you have the means to make their day a little better by leaving a few dollars, it’s a very nice gesture.

By no means is there an obligation to do so (unlike in a sit-down restaurant situation, where the server is likely making less than min. wage per hour, and very dependent on tips for most of their pay ).

ranwhenparked > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:28

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I think he has been known as a decent tipper from way back, seem to remember he did a few thousand at a restaurant once. Part of it could be to avoid being embarrassed if someone went public with a bad tip or no tip at all, he's been a celebrity of some sort for a long time. 

jimz > E90M3 09/19/2019 at 16:28

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I look at it this way- I try to avoid being a pain in the ass, while a depressing number of other people seem to go out of their way to be enormous fucking pigs when they know someone else is cleaning up after them.  So by 1) not making a mess of my room and 2) leaving a decent tip when I check out, hopefully I’m making an improvement in their day of having to clean up after animals. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 09/19/2019 at 16:29

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They can afford to, but likely don’t...

The median salary for housekeepers is $19,570 per year, or about $9.41 per hour, according to data for 2012 from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Housekeepers who work in major metropolitan areas tend to make a higher average wage.

jimz > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 09/19/2019 at 16:30

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“I figure for $250/night they can afford to pay their employees a reasonable wage.”

HAHAHAHA.

Fuck, for $250/night they probably still nickel and dime you for shit like internet.  while the $109/night Courtyard gives it to you for free.   

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Ash78, voting early and often 09/19/2019 at 16:30

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Yeah, man, but... fresh sheets. Isn’t the point of a hotel to enjoy some luxuries like this?

boredalways > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:48

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Someone close to him should buy him a money clip...wait...do they have MAGA money clips?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/19/2019 at 16:51

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Same. And I’m always staying at Motel 6 -- my favorite place to stay, actually, since their modernization -- and cleaning those rooms has to be an immense grind.

Ash78, voting early and often > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/19/2019 at 16:52

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I’m pretty sure most of them only change the sheets once a week, by policy (THANKS AL GORE!)

It’s nice to have a made bed, but it never inconvenienced me that much. Let’s just say when we stay in a hotel, we basically move in. Stuff everywhere. Housekeeping would hate it.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > E90M3 09/19/2019 at 16:53

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Granted, I like to tip, but your point about the Takeout still stands. Pretty much according to them, unl ess you tip everyone you talk to in your day to day interactions at 50%, you’re a monster.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 09/19/2019 at 16:54

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There’s an intimacy about the whole thing...

Last year, when my daughter got married, the two younger sisters, as well as two girlfriends, shared a room and got dressed for the shenanigans wedding and as you might imagine, left the room an absolute disaster. I left $15 or 20 for the housekeeping person that morning. Maybe tipping is less about him or her tipped, than it is about the t ipper.

ttyymmnn > jimz 09/19/2019 at 16:55

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This is something that my wife and I actively teach to our boys. We travel often, and have stayed in many hotels. We always clean up after ourselves as much as we can. Cleaning staff have enough to do without dealing with our mess.

I remember once when I was young making a mess and when my dad said something about it I said, “They’ve got people to clean that up.” I received perhaps the iciest look of my life, and learned my lesson. 

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Chariotoflove 09/19/2019 at 16:55

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Maybe tipping is more for the tipper than for the tipped.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:55

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In Europe, you are expected to leave a tip for the cleaning staff. 

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > boredalways 09/19/2019 at 16:56

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I'm sure they do, and I bet they’re made from the finest Chinesium that money can buy.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz 09/19/2019 at 16:57

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Egg zactly. I always leave the room neat and leave a tip as well. For those same reasons.

atfsgeoff > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 16:57

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Trump is well-known for tipping anyone who personally helps or serves him in a professional capacity, very well. He’s been doing it for decades.

ttyymmnn > jimz 09/19/2019 at 16:58

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We stayed in a grossly overpriced Hampton Inn in Santa Barbara last summer, and the free WiFi was such shit that you had to sit in the hallway to get it to work. And the washer/dryer was $4 a load. And that was on top of a $200 room.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! 09/19/2019 at 16:58

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I’ve never felt that pressure. Someone waits on me, or cleans up after me, a few buck is a nice way to say “thank you.”

ttyymmnn > Ash78, voting early and often 09/19/2019 at 16:58

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If we are going to be in a room for more than one night, I usually tell them not to bother with the room. I don’t make my bed at home, why should I expect somebody to do it for me when I’m traveling? 

ttyymmnn > boredalways 09/19/2019 at 17:00

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I can’t find any MAGA money clips, but plenty of MAGA phone case /wallets out there.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 09/19/2019 at 17:00

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Wait: that happened to me, too.

I started tipping after traveling to Wendover with Dave & Louise left a tip, about $2 per night, so about $6, and I’ve done it ever since. Just a nice way to brighten someone’s day who has about the sh***est job I can imagine.

ttyymmnn > Mercedes Streeter 09/19/2019 at 17:01

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Nobody ever got to be a billionaire by giving money away.

Ash78, voting early and often > ttyymmnn 09/19/2019 at 17:02

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“Making a bed is like tying your shoes after you’ve taken them off” —Jim Gaffigan

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz 09/19/2019 at 17:02

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Egg zactly!!  You and I think alike.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > jimz 09/19/2019 at 17:04

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And who stays in $250-a-night digs anyhow? I certainly don’t. And if I were, someone else would probably be paying for it, so I would be even more disposed to tip and either expense it, or not worry about tipping, because I hadn’t paid for the room.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/19/2019 at 17:05

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But save the planet. And most places won’t change the sheets every night and probably use the planet as an excuse.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Mercedes Streeter 09/19/2019 at 17:06

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If the billionaire president of the free world was staying in the room I worked on, I’d shortsheet his bed.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc 09/19/2019 at 17:07

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Not that it would do him any harm, since no laws nor norms nor manners of decency apply to him.

Mercedes Streeter > ttyymmnn 09/19/2019 at 17:10

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True, but he also love flexing his worth and ability to throw large amounts of cash at anything...so being cheap kinda goes against that image.

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > E90M3 09/19/2019 at 17:16

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The other two replies here are correct, and from my understanding it’s only really expected when you leave a mess, or make them do more cleaning than turning over the room and replacing towels. If you have them clean your room every day (as opposed to fresh towels and nothing else) they’re essentially being your maid for minimum wage, which I would argue is not in their job description.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 17:21

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I'm not disagreeing. When I'm at a place where I can tip (which is really only a restaurant or when I get my hair cut), I tip well. But, I will say that I think it's a crummy system. Pay people a better wage to begin with. 

USUSGTO > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 17:23

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200 plus nights so far this y ear (travel 5-7 days a week for work). About 320 last year.

I have had about 20% of those at $ 250 plus. Company pays every dim e. Most of them have been 175 or so. Category 2- 4 Hilton, Marriott, IHG, Hyatt. As per rate and deal and availabi lity.

Never -ever tipped for House keeping.

Always get fresh towels.

Always get fresh linen.

After a 13 hr day, I’d like to walk into a brand new room, every single night.

And no I am not a cheap ass. Part of travelling 100% of the times means, I eat out almost every single meal. Tip 20% - irrespective of service. $10 lunch, $25-30 dinner (with a drink ), basically $5-10 / day in tips at restaurants.

Coming back to the room service, a s part of my growing up, I always made up my bed first thing when I woke up. My sister and I were actually rewarded for making the perfect bed. S o house kee ping doesn’ t have to do m uch, even after my 6th nite in the same room.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc 09/19/2019 at 17:43

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Tip, bribe, same thing right?

fintail > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 17:46

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Buying a pote ntial vote, perhaps?

But at least he’s not in the non-tipping brigade, somehow I am kind of shocked that he doesn’t follow the “I built it myself, find a better job if you don’t like it, free enterprise, capitalism, hard work, winning! ” libertarian choad line of babble .  Then again, unlike most of those types, maybe even he has enough self-awareness to realize he’d be nothing without daddy.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) 09/19/2019 at 17:53

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I don’t know about taxing with the expectation of tips but most states reduce or eliminate the minimum wage requirement for people working jobs where tips are expected. 

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 18:38

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As someone who has spent more time living in hotels than I’d prefer, I always leave $5 for housekeeping. But I also only have them come in every 3 to 4 days if its a longer stay.

I’m also not messy per se, like the room isn’t gross. But if I traveling alone I have a tendency to flail in my sleep and muck the sheets all up.

Also, it pays dividends. One time I bought silverware because I was in an extended stay place for 6 months and they used to do my dishes for me. I felt bad so I tried to hid my dirty dishes so I could do them later myself.  They would seek them out and still do them for me! I have some other good hookup stories like that, extra soap and things, but the dishes took the cake.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 09/19/2019 at 18:57

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I thought housekeeping was a not tipped position. Unlike a restaurant server.

jimz > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 19:29

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when work used to send me to CES I did. Rates (both on and off strip) for CES week were regularly $300/night (yes, they paid for it.) and yes, Internet access was extra.

meanwhile the America’s Best Value Inn I stayed at in Celina a couple of months ago for $70/night had free wifi.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 09/19/2019 at 19:55

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There are plenty of service jobs where the workers make minimum wage or better, but where tips are appreciated, though not exactly expected , like the shuttle driver at the airport who lugs your bags, or a valet, etc.

DipodomysDeserti > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 09/19/2019 at 20:58

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Ah yes, those trickle down economics we’ve heard about.

DipodomysDeserti > E90M3 09/19/2019 at 21:03

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Can’t tell if this is Mr. Pink satire or if you’re serious.

DipodomysDeserti > Chariotoflove 09/19/2019 at 21:08

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Most of our society is made up of cheap bastards. I’ve only ever faced familial pressure to tip so as not to sully our family name for being cheapskates.

Chariotoflove > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 09/19/2019 at 21:26

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Sometimes courtesy is it’s own reward. 

Chariotoflove > DipodomysDeserti 09/19/2019 at 21:30

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Any people we cheap I think this new thing of having suggested amounts for tips displayed to me is a way to nudge people. And the nudging has been slowly toward 20% being the standard it used to be 15% was standard.

I like to tip to show my appreciation, and so I tend to be generous with good service  

DipodomysDeserti > Chariotoflove 09/19/2019 at 23:13

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Yeah, I forgot they suggest a tip with those new ipad -based registers.