Sound advice solicited

Kinja'd!!! "HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
08/27/2019 at 13:48 • Filed to: Sound systems, cruisin, SuborHoggie

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I’ m going to install a sub in the Cruiser. The sound from the Ancient but serviceable Pioneer AVIC head and stock speakers is...fine, its fine. But the bass from the thin 6.5 inch speakers in the door (the biggest speakers in the vehicle) are...poor. The vehicle came with 9 speakers from the factory (2 in the front doors, 2 tweeters the knees with low pass from the mains, 2 in the middle doors, 2 tweeters with low pass from the middle speakers on the ceiling and a hilariously undersized free air “sub” -6 inches- pushing a mighty 50 watts in the rear kick panel. It hasn’t worked since I’ve had it due to the upgraded head unit and it being torn to shreds.

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The unmitigated power!

Normally I don’t care too much about this kind of stuff but every time I drive the GX with its Mark Levinson Reference system I get kinda jelly. I realize its not the most excellent system in the world and some people hate it but it has excellent bass response from the single sub in the rear kick and that’s all im really after here. SOMETHING that can resolve frequencies bellow 80 hz with any clarity or power.

I bought this to help with with that goal.

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Not mine, but the same bracket.

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It goes in the stock location and is meant for one of these self powered underseat boxes. Yeah I realize they aren’t going to knock me out of my seat but I’m giving up ZERO cargo space for sound.

So the question...what brands or units would you recommend. Obviously this Rockford Fosgate Punch 8 fits great. I’ve also seen Kicker 8 inch and Cirwin-Vega 10 inchers in there too.

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My head unit has pre-amp out for a sub. Im looking for most reliable and response over outright power.

Anyone have experience or suggestions?


DISCUSSION (23)


Kinja'd!!! Censored > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 14:24

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People speak highly of the kicker unit on the Jeep forums. I have never heard one personally. I went with the square kenwood unit, as it was much smaller for the back of my TJ. I’ll be honest though, it is a bit disappointing in the jeep. With the added volume of the cruiser I’d say no go for that unit.

For reference:

https://www.amazon.com/Kenwood-KSC-SW11-Compact-Enclosed-Subwoofer/dp/B00BO8O9XQ/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3GHE0QHJ1PQCU&keywords=kenwood+powered+subwoofer&qid=1566930226&s=gateway&sprefix=kenwood+powered%2Caps%2C151&sr=8-2


Kinja'd!!! jimz > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 14:24

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It’s impossible to tell you how the various ones may differ, the “specs” they all publish give absolutely no information to indicate sound quality.  The few I’ve tried (Kicker and Pioneer) were tuned a bit on the “boomy” side. 


Kinja'd!!! vicali > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 14:24

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Future HHFP;


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > jimz
08/27/2019 at 14:26

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I saw a JBL unit that would fit.  I’ve like the JBL sound, I wonder if thats worth a try.  That being said I know the consumer level JBL stuff is...less that superior quality.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 14:30

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to be honest most of the lower end stuff (even from well known brands) is made by a handful of companies in Asia like Sonavox, Foster, and Gemmy. 


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > jimz
08/27/2019 at 14:32

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That’ s what I assume.


Kinja'd!!! gettingoldercarguy > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 14:35

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What are the rough dimensions of available space?


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > gettingoldercarguy
08/27/2019 at 14:36

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i don't have it with me but i would guess that cerwin is about it.


Kinja'd!!! nafsucof > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 14:48

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alpine power density amps.  nice and small, awesome power.


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > nafsucof
08/27/2019 at 15:35

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I need an enclosure/amp combo, do they make one or just amps?


Kinja'd!!! nafsucof > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 15:44

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alpine pwe-s8 is an 8” 120w sub amp combo  


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > nafsucof
08/27/2019 at 15:46

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I saw that, $300 seems a lot for 120 RMS watts.


Kinja'd!!! nafsucof > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 16:01

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yeah, but  new egg has it at $219 free shipping and it’s on ebay for $199 with free shipping also!  thing about alpine stuff though there rms typically is a little more potent then the power suggests and they are really great build quality...


Kinja'd!!! gettingoldercarguy > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 16:30

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Are you able to build your own enclosure?

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-ls10-44-10-low-profile-subwoofer-dual-4-ohm—295-251


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > gettingoldercarguy
08/27/2019 at 16:37

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The way I figure it I have about 3 3/4 inches max to play with. This driver is 3 3/4 inches deep


Kinja'd!!! gettingoldercarguy > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 17:16

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Bummer, the Alpine unit somebody else suggested looks good. I’ve never seen a comparison test of all the compact units before, would be nice.

Is there an option for your car like this?

https://oemaudioplus.com/


Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > gettingoldercarguy
08/27/2019 at 17:18

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I can have a custom box made...but im not that commited.  I want plus and play.


Kinja'd!!! Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 17:23

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“Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you’ll be a mile from them, and you’ll have their shoes.”

You can’t deny that this is, in fact, sound advice.


Kinja'd!!! Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 17:24

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Put this guy and his gear in the trunk.

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Kinja'd!!! HammerheadFistpunch > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
08/27/2019 at 17:25

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I love it! oh crap...I don’t have a trunk


Kinja'd!!! gettingoldercarguy > HammerheadFistpunch
08/27/2019 at 17:29

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I feel you, I'm gonna try to swing that oem audio setup for Christmas.


Kinja'd!!! Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > nafsucof
08/27/2019 at 18:29

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Nah.

Alpine KTA450.

https://www.alpine-usa.com/product/ilxw650_kta450_power-duo_package


Kinja'd!!! LedRobster > HammerheadFistpunch
08/28/2019 at 09:56

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I have that Rockford unit in the picture in my FiST and really like it. Great for filling in lows and occasional bouts of vibrating the rearview mirror.